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Old 10-27-2008, 12:54 PM
 
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Anything of truth has its counterfeit counterpart. Deception will turn away many, it's what we're following that's important.
Who's to say Christianity isn't counterfeit? The only reason you believe it isn't is because you were told so, first by other people (including authors of the bible), and then by yourself. Remember, only 2 billion people believe Christianity is true, the other 4 billion see it as counterfeit.
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:00 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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Did I miss this? :
" Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me."
Matt.16.24; Mark 8.34; Luke 9.25...NKJV
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:51 PM
 
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Who's to say Christianity isn't counterfeit? The only reason you believe it isn't is because you were told so, first by other people (including authors of the bible), and then by yourself. Remember, only 2 billion people believe Christianity is true, the other 4 billion see it as counterfeit.
If I may, I'll try to answer all your questions here.

First of all, if you knew Him if you wouldn't have chosen your screen name. To wit:

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Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. (Prov 3:5)
Logic is from λόγος logos, "word, thought, idea, argument, account, reason, or principle", all of which are grounded in the carnal mind, so this doctrine will make no sense to you "because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." (Rom 8:7)

So please acknowledge that the best reasoning and logic we can muster will be frustrated by the things of God. The spiritual world is His playground, not ours.

Secondly, you're correct: the reason I believe it isn't because I was told so, but that my heart was captured by an invisible force.
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:34 PM
 
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Jesus Christ was talking about spiritual matters.

We all have to think on our own in order to pass our biology and algebra courses in college and high school. lol....you know?? Or is that seen as a sin?


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If I may, I'll try to answer all your questions here.

First of all, if you knew Him if you wouldn't have chosen your screen name. To wit:



Logic is from λόγος logos, "word, thought, idea, argument, account, reason, or principle", all of which are grounded in the carnal mind, so this doctrine will make no sense to you "because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." (Rom 8:7)

So please acknowledge that the best reasoning and logic we can muster will be frustrated by the things of God. The spiritual world is His playground, not ours.

Secondly, you're correct: the reason I believe it isn't because I was told so, but that my heart was captured by an invisible force.
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:36 PM
 
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Little Elmer what denomination of church do you attend?
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:38 PM
 
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I don't see anybody answer my last 3 or 4 posts
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:45 AM
 
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Little Elmer what denomination of church do you attend?
Is it necessary to attend, or just to follow the One who said, "Follow me"?
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:57 AM
 
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We all have to think on our own in order to pass our biology and algebra courses in college and high school. lol....you know?? Or is that seen as a sin?
"Thinking" in and of itself is innocent - but the reasoning is what leads us away from the Spirit's call - for it is opposed to faith, which is required to please God. (Heb 11:6)

I understand the challenge that our advancement in knowledge and science presents, but we must maintain a childlike attitude before the Holy One, who is so far above the best that we can muster.
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:29 AM
 
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Is it necessary to attend, or just to follow the One who said, "Follow me"?
If you believe that the scriptures are the inspired word od God, you will know that it is 'necessary' to assemble with fellow Christians. It is taught throughout the New Testament. We are admonished to 'not forsake the assembling of ourselves together'.

If you love God, you will love His disciples, and want to assemble with them.
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:55 PM
 
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If you believe that the scriptures are the inspired word od God, you will know that it is 'necessary' to assemble with fellow Christians. It is taught throughout the New Testament. We are admonished to 'not forsake the assembling of ourselves together'.

If you love God, you will love His disciples, and want to assemble with them.
I agree, but I was responding because we shouldn't regard a fellow believer on the sole basis of what church or denomination they "belong" to.

I believe in "Jesus Christ, and Him crucified" as Paul stated. That should be the binding cord among us.
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