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Is this what you see? If we don't, we need to be looking harder! And WE ARE CHRISTIANS, and this is a discussion concerning racism, and discrimination. How do you define between the sinner and the sin? Does this line get blurred? Are we so perfected that it is plain to see?
So if I condemn lying, stealing, murder. I am a racist or I discriminate? Please clarify
Excuse me, but you came in here. (the sheep pen)
That's like going to church and saying "stop telling me about God".
The OP was not addressing homosexuality or even about teaching against the practice.
It was - from the title line - mostly about racial discrimination.
Certainly, Jesus died for the homosexual, just as He did for all of us.
Ideally, we should differentiate between the sin and the sinner.
Sadly, that is not always done.
But the practice itself is one of the behaviors which the Bible addresses.
It is the Word of God and whether you agree or not, this is what it says:
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1Corinthians 6:9,10
If you wish to create a new thread on that topic - your own OP, then feel free to do so.
Last edited by Richio; 11-29-2008 at 10:16 AM..
Reason: typo
I used to live in a place where there was a great deal of racism.
Many of the people – those professing to be Christian – had subtle but racist attitudes.
Whether or not they were truly born again, or racism was just a carry-over from the societal norm, I cannot say.
That was in real-life.
Online - I’ve seen anti-Semitism from Christians, but not really in this forum.
It’s sure to raise its head at some point, though.
Won't they be surprised and disappointed, when they get to the "pearly gate"?!!!
you consider reading the whole thread to see who's bringing up homosexuality....
sin is a sin whether it's fornication or homosexuality or stealing or murder.
I dont single out homosexuality....i could care less about it.
You will notice that the OP brought it up as he has in many other threads
He's trying to compare Racism to discrimination towards homosexuality
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Originally Posted by HotinAZ
Is this what you see? If we don't, we need to be looking harder! And WE ARE CHRISTIANS, and this is a discussion concerning racism, and discrimination. How do you define between the sinner and the sin? Does this line get blurred? Are we so perfected that it is plain to see?
I used to live in a place where there was a great deal of racism.
Many of the people – those professing to be Christian – had subtle but racist attitudes.
Whether or not they were truly born again, or racism was just a carry-over from the societal norm, I cannot say.
That was in real-life.
Online - I’ve seen anti-Semitism from Christians, but not really in this forum.
It’s sure to raise its head at some point, though.
Won't they be surprised and disappointed, when they get to the "pearly gate"?!!!
...And where does racism come from?
Not from God!
I live in an extremely racist place where people throw the N word around even in church. People around here have a very old south mentality - its still 1957 around here and it makes me sick. Do they not believe that God died for both black and white people?
People here act like they are super-Christians just because there are laws against alcohol and homosexuality, but they could care less about evangelizing and winning people to Christ. Here, its all about rules and legalism.
a person telling someone else that their lifestyle is wrong, and they need to repent?
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Originally Posted by bchris02
I live in an extremely racist place where people throw the N word around even in church. People around here have a very old south mentality - its still 1957 around here and it makes me sick. Do they not believe that God died for both black and white people?
People here act like they are super-Christians just because there are laws against alcohol and homosexuality, but they could care less about evangelizing and winning people to Christ. Here, its all about rules and legalism.
He's trying to compare Racism to discrimination towards homosexuality
Hi, I don't believe that we are to discrimminate against individuals because of their race or because of homosexual tendencies. I believe that some are born to be eunuchs for whatever reason, and the tendency towards homosexuality may be one reason. The creation has been infected with sin. This does not mean that the practice of engaging in homosexual acts is right. If someone says that they are a brother or sister in Christ and that they have have these tendencies, struggle with this but do not promote this kind of lifestyle, we are to try to help and give our support, show no discrimmination at all. Someone may struggle with gossip and although the sin is not condoned, brothers and sisters should try to help, give support. We all have things that we struggle with. God bless.
i agree but the poster isn't saying that homosexuality is wrong.
they are saying there's nothing wrong with it.
he also believes in homosexual rights...or how else are homosexuals being 'discriminated'
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Originally Posted by ShanaBrown
Hi, I don't believe that we are to discrimminate against individuals because of their race or because of homosexual tendencies. I believe that some are born to be eunuchs for whatever reason, and the tendency towards homosexuality may be one reason. This does not mean that the practice of engaging in homosexual acts is right. If someone says that they are a brother or sister in Christ and that they have have these tendencies, struggle with this but do not promote this kind of lifestyle, we are to try to help and give our support, show no discrimmination at all. Someone may struggle with gossip and although the sin is not condoned, brothers and sisters should try to help, give support. We all have things that we struggle with. God bless.
Hi, I don't believe that we are to discrimminate against individuals because of their race or because of homosexual tendencies. I believe that some are born to be eunuchs for whatever reason, and the tendency towards homosexuality may be one reason. The creation has been infected with sin. This does not mean that the practice of engaging in homosexual acts is right. If someone says that they are a brother or sister in Christ and that they have have these tendencies, struggle with this but do not promote this kind of lifestyle, we are to try to help and give our support, show no discrimmination at all. Someone may struggle with gossip and although the sin is not condoned, brothers and sisters should try to help, give support. We all have things that we struggle with. God bless.
That's interesting. Do you think that our tendency to idolize man could've resulted in God's turning us toward men? Just a thought.
I don't condone the practice of homosexuality, but we do live in a society with a constitution that protects the rights of all citizens. How is this reconciled with what we understand to be God's views/teaching on the practice of homosexuality? If someone engages in this kind of lifestyle and wants to teach at a school, for example, or wants to live a certain place and if we say they cannot because they engage in this lifestyle, how are we protecting their rights as citizens of this country just as we want our rights to be protected? Just asking. God bless.
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