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Old 06-28-2009, 10:03 AM
 
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Then quit answering my post if you cant stand the heat..

I like heat, prove that your not the devils seed.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:07 AM
 
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I like heat, prove that your not the devils seed.
Phazelwood he is corned at the moment because he said only born again believers thirst , i want to see him get out of this one .

I do not want him side tracked by serpent seed or use serpent seed as a means of trying to avoid answering the question
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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There is not a single verse that says explicitly that God does not Love some without conditions..

THERE ARE CONDITIONS! If we want to be loved by God we must keep His
commandments. Jesus said:

"IF ye keep my commandments, YE SHALL ABIDE IN
MY LOVE;" (John 15:10)

"IF a man love me, he will keep my words: AND MY
FATHER WILL LOVE HIM," (John 14:23)

"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he
it is that loveth me: And he that loveth me
SHALL BE LOVED OF MY FATHER..."
(John 14:21)

Let the scriptures speak for themselves about whom God loves...

"The LORD loveth the righteous." (Psalms 146:8)

"He loveth him that followeth after righteousness."
(Proverbs 15:9)

"I love them that love Me." (Proverbs 8:17)

"...For I the LORD your God am a jealous God
...showing steadfast love to thousands of those who
love Me and KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS."
(Exodus 20:5-6, (2nd commandment)

HK
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:22 AM
 
Location: New England
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THERE ARE CONDITIONS! If we want to be loved by God we must keep His
commandments. Jesus said:

"IF ye keep my commandments, YE SHALL ABIDE IN
MY LOVE;" (John 15:10)

"IF a man love me, he will keep my words: AND MY
FATHER WILL LOVE HIM," (John 14:23)

"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he
it is that loveth me: And he that loveth me
SHALL BE LOVED OF MY FATHER..."
(John 14:21)


Let the scriptures speak for themselves about whom God loves...

"The LORD loveth the righteous." (Psalms 146:8)

"He loveth him that followeth after righteousness."
(Proverbs 15:9)

"I love them that love Me." (Proverbs 8:17)

"...For I the LORD your God am a jealous God
...showing steadfast love to thousands of those who
love Me and KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS."
(Exodus 20:5-6, (2nd commandment)

HK
Of cause you will keep His commandments if you love Him . This is the outcome of loving Him not a condition.

He is our righteousness

1 Corinthians chapter 1 verse

30It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.

Why is He our righteousness ? Because our righteousness is as filthy rags Isaiah Chapter 64 verse 4-9
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:25 AM
 
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God demonstrated His love towards us while we were yet sinners Romans chapter 5 verse 8.

Rom 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners,
Christ died for us.

Paul was NOT saying that God was showing how much He
*loves* us in that Christ died for us.

Rather, the verse means that God was demonstrating (that is
what commendedth means) the God kind of love unto (Gk-eis) us.
The kind of love that will send His Son to die for His enemies.

To demonstrate the love of God to us as sinners does not mean that
he "loves" those to whom he is demonstrating the God kind of love.

Yes, he acts in love toward his enemies but it does not follow that
he loves them. That is why, in the Scriptures you cannot find any
Biblical statement which says that God loves ALL men -

Notice verse 10...

Rom 5:10
For if, when we were **enemies,** we were reconciled to God
by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled,
we shall be saved by his life.

Yes the kind of love that will send ones Son to die for a people
that God was "sorry He had made". (See Gen 6:5-6)

The love God "demonstrated" was not love for you as an individual,
but undeserved mercy for mankind whom he was sorry he made
because they are desperately wicked.

HK

"IF ye keep my commandments, YE SHALL ABIDE IN MY LOVE;"
(John 15:10)

"IF a man love me, he will keep my words: AND MY FATHER
WILL LOVE HIM," (John 14:23)

"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that
loveth me: And he that loveth me SHALL BE LOVED OF MY
FATHER..." (John 14:21)

Those verses clearly say that God will love someone IF they keep His
commandments. If God already loves all men then these comments
by Jesus are nonsense.

HK
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:27 AM
 
Location: New England
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Read my response above please.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:31 AM
 
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Greater love as no man than that he lay down his life for His friends John chapter 15 verse 13

Also there is one command in this chapter and because you love to keep talking up commands read the chapter to discover what this command is , not commands by the way.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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How can a God, that IS LOVE, love conditionally? If he stopped loving He would cease to exist.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.


Has God ceased to exist?


HK
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:36 AM
 
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Well my Dad chastised me, cane and slipper and sometimes unjustified and i love Him more today than i ever did . Same with our Heavenly Father but He is just with all his chastisement.


And so is He with His JUDGMENT. Giving us just as we deserve! AMEN.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:38 AM
 
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And so is He with His JUDGMENT. Giving us just as we deserve! AMEN.
Read my lips Judgement is not eternal hell .
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