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First of all eternity has no beginning, eternity is outside of time all together. That which is aionion by its very nature cannot be eternal ... eternity wasn't even a Hebrew concept. Eternity in the ancient Hebrew mind was cyclical nature, their understanding of time was circular and not linear like our understanding is in the west today. Their idea of time was completely different than the western idea. They understood the past as being in front of them and the future and being behind them, the opposite of western thought.
Second ... the term aion is very well explained in Ephesians chapter 3. All ages in the bible are temporary and pass one to another until the fullness of the ages is come. Though the new testament was written in Greek, and the Hebrew mind had to some extent acclimated to Hellenistic thought by the time Christ came on the seen, the concept of time was still Hebrew from the old testament to the new testament. To break the line of thought from the old testament to the new testament is to literally bastardize the new testament and cause it to loose all context. The biblical Concept of the Greek aion is the same as the Hebrew owlam. The Hebrew owlam by its very definition is a duration of time. One so far extended as to be beyond the horizon of perception, but limited in its duration none the less. This is the biblical context we should use, and not the later western concepts that came to be associated with the words. This is why the vast majority of Christians in the first four centuries believed in UR. Because the original texts of the new testament in light of the old testament scriptures plainly bore out the belief to the mind of the people at that time.
You know you really need to check and see all aspects of word age, it still mean eternal or perpetual.
Robin, an age is an idefinite period of time. It has a beginning and end.
Ages have a beginning and they have an end. The scriptures refer to past ages, the present age, and ages to come. They cannot be eternal if they have a beginning and an end.
There was "a secret concealed from the aions" (ages) (past) (Eph.3:9)
There was "the preparation of the aions"(ages) (past) (Heb.11:3)
There is "the present wicked aion" (age)(present) (Gal.1:4)
There is "the conclusion of the current aion" (age) (present) (Matt 28:20)
There will be "the comingaion" (age)(future) (Luke 18:30)
There will be "the oncoming aions" (ages)(future) (Eph.2:7)
Eternity has no beginning and no end. If aion, the Greek word for age, means eternity, there would be
a secret concealed from the eternities,
a preparation of the eternities,
the present wicked eternity,
the conclusion of the current eternity,
the coming eternity!
the oncoming eternities
(Correct tranlsation is important)
What definition, Robin? All concordances and all lexicons don't agree, and all concordances are not correct. Scripture shows that an age cannot mean eternity. God created the ages, not the eternities.
If aion, the Greek word for age, means eternity, there would be
a secret concealed from the eternities,
a preparation of the eternities,
the present wicked eternity,
the conclusion of the current eternity,
the coming eternity
the oncoming eternities
(Correct translation is important)
God bless.
Last edited by ShanaBrown; 07-11-2009 at 03:33 PM..
[quote=ShanaBrown;9714952]What definition, Robin? All concordances and all lexicons don't agree, and all concordances are not correct. Scripture shows that an age cannot mean eternity. God created the ages, not the eternities.
If aion, the Greek word for age, means eternity, there would be
a secret concealed from the eternities,
a preparation of the eternities,
the present wicked eternity,
the conclusion of the current eternity,
the coming eternity!
the oncoming eternities
(Correct tranlsation is important)
God bless.[/qoute]
I understand this but my point is that some people are make a whole doctrine from nit picked verses or words.
What definition, Robin? All concordances and all lexicons don't agree, and all concordances are not correct. Scripture shows that an age cannot mean eternity. God created the ages, not the eternities.
If aion, the Greek word for age, means eternity, there would be
a secret concealed from the eternities,
a preparation of the eternities,
the present wicked eternity,
the conclusion of the current eternity,
the coming eternity!
the oncoming eternities
(Correct tranlsation is important)
God bless.[/qoute]
I understand this but my point is that some people are make a whole doctrine from nit picked verses or words.
How so, Robin? The restoration of all things to God is not a doctrine derived from a few verses or words. It is a theme that runs through the scriptures. God destroys and He restores. We might say that the doctrine of eternal hell is derived from a few picked verses or words also, right? God bless.
How so, Robin? The restoration of all things to God is not a doctrine derived from a few verses or words. It is a theme that runs through the scriptures. God destroys and He restores. We might say that the doctrine of eternal hell is derived from a few picked verses or words also, right? God bless.
Amen Shana
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