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Old 08-11-2022, 05:56 AM
 
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Antichrist? ...."The first written history suggests Arnulf, the archbishop of Reims in the 10th century identified the Papacy as the Antichrist. Later Joachim of Fiore in the 12th century preached the Papacy was the Antichrist. This led to the martyrdoms of many Albigenses, Anabaptists, and others who in part embraced his views. And the archbishop Eberhard II in 1240 also related the papacy to the Antichrist." Synopsis of the End Times; A look at the popular beliefs of today by Mike Morrill.

All Protestants believed the Papacy is the (Antichrist Capital A). Most all their creeds state this clearly. Even post-reformation Baptists and Methodists taught this.

Where is He today? Check your own church and find as many of his false doctrines as you can. He still remains seated in the Temple of God (Christendom) doctrinally. For instance, why does everyone use the Papal wording for baptism and not the early biblical wording of the Apostles?
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Old 08-11-2022, 03:05 PM
 
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All Protestants believed the Papacy is the (Antichrist Capital A). Most all their creeds state this clearly. Even post-reformation Baptists and Methodists taught this.

Where is He today? Check your own church and find as many of his false doctrines as you can. He still remains seated in the Temple of God (Christendom) doctrinally. For instance, why does everyone use the Papal wording for baptism and not the early biblical wording of the Apostles?
I believe that most Christian Churches teach us to follow Christ, even though there have been many false teachers and evil men throughout history. However, Christ told his disciples on the Mount of Olives what to look for to know immediately "the sign of thy coming, and end of the world."

"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place." (Matt. 24:15)

He could not be speaking of the reign of popes for hundreds of years to give us the sign that the Lord's coming is imminent.
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Old 08-11-2022, 04:46 PM
 
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I believe that most Christian Churches teach us to follow Christ, even though there have been many false teachers and evil men throughout history. However, Christ told his disciples on the Mount of Olives what to look for to know immediately "the sign of thy coming, and end of the world."

"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place." (Matt. 24:15)

He could not be speaking of the reign of popes for hundreds of years to give us the sign that the Lord's coming is imminent.
The abomination of desolation was the continued animal sacrifice that remained standing in the holy place after Christ put an end to sins with the sacrifice of himself on the cross.
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Old 08-11-2022, 07:24 PM
 
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The abomination of desolation was the continued animal sacrifice that remained standing in the holy place after Christ put an end to sins with the sacrifice of himself on the cross.
We need to understand what Jesus was trying to tell his disciples. He had just told them "and then shall the end come." He is telling his disciples how to recognize that time and what they should do. When they see that prophecy spoken of by Daniel 9:24-27, the followers of Christ should "stand in the holy place."

"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place." (Matt. 24:15) KJV

One key to recognizing the seven year period when the Lord will come is that there will be an overspreading of abominations.

"and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate" Daniel 9:27
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:45 PM
 
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You are the earth, both land and sea.

The sun is in your left eye and the moon is in your right. Your left eye grows and controls the fruits of the land while your right eye moves the waters, and all the stars of heaven were all the great earthly teachers held in honor as kings and nobels.

The sun and moon are in a betrothal being in either eye as the voice of the bride and the voice of the bridegroom.


Psalms
Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. (Sun, moon)

3There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. ( 12 constalations, day and night)

4Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

6His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

The Moon

As the sun is racing across the line of the earth it is in a race in a repeating cycle each month with the moon.

The moon says," Have you seen my beloved?

They chase each other in a never ending cycle and the reason is that the bride is always a whooah.

The flesh wants what the flesh wants, spirit want what the spirit wants but even in our sins we catch up to our beloved and he shields us that nobody has ever seen a new moon as the two make their procession across together.

As the moon wanes, so do we, as it strengthens, so do we.

What has happened if you look in the mirror and you see that your left eye has turned black as sacloth, and your right eye has turned to blood?


Psalms
2Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

3There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

4Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,(YOU ARE A TABERNACLE)

5Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.(With the moon)

6His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.


Revelation 6~ The coming of Messiah to his temple
12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


Sheer terror, but this happens within you and all the preachers and teachers of the stars of heaven and the great lofty mountains will all have been nothing.


Why?

Messiah just came to his tabernacle in your left eye and and it wouldnt matter if you close your eyes or not, he is before your face and you cant run from you.


The 6th seal.

The 6th seal is one of 7 strips linen ripped from one cloth.

7 seal you wrap on a dead man as Revelation is displaying us in a resurrection coming out of a cocoon. The 7 seals have their exact order of placement one at a time.

The 6th seal is the seal taken off the eyes where the sky rolls up and nobody can hide what they see because they had been blind all their life, and now they see.

Problem being, this isnt a day you wait for, its a day that people raced to in every generation.


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Old 08-11-2022, 11:35 PM
 
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What is a fig tree?

Revelation 6
The sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs,


A fig tree represents a non Jewish Israel and all her childish green fruit fallen to the ground because the wind shakes the tree.


There cannot be a non Jewish Israel, there can only be one nation and in Paul's day Gentiles joined Jews and became Jews, but nobody wants to join the Jew now.


Gentiles cling to their Gentile teachings.

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Old 08-12-2022, 06:46 AM
 
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What is a fig tree?

Revelation 6
The sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs,


A fig tree represents a non Jewish Israel and all her childish green fruit fallen to the ground because the wind shakes the tree.


There cannot be a non Jewish Israel, there can only be one nation and in Paul's day Gentiles joined Jews and became Jews, but nobody wants to join the Jew now.


Gentiles cling to their Gentile teachings.
The Church is Israel. The broken-off Jews are gentiles. They can be attached to Israel if they accept Christ.
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:21 AM
 
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The Church is Israel. The broken-off Jews are gentiles. They can be attached to Israel if they accept Christ.
No dude, you arent a Jew, you arent Israel, you dont practice the religion of Messiah to even know his religion because you are a pagan Christian.

For 2000 years, the Jews alone keep the religion of Christ.


You may as well be claiming to be a fish, but claiming you are a fish wont make you a fish.
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Old 08-12-2022, 10:17 AM
 
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The Church is Israel. The broken-off Jews are gentiles. They can be attached to Israel if they accept Christ.
No, it is not. You are seriously confused. The Church is a new creation as Paul stated in 2 Corinthians 5:17. It did not exist prior to the Day of Pentecost 50 days after the resurrection of Jesus. When Jesus said that he would build his Church (Matthew 16:18) it did not yet exist. Israel has been temporarily set aside for the duration of the Church-age, but God has not abandoned Israel. In this dispensation of the Church, whenever a Jew receives Jesus as Savior he becomes a part of the 'Church' and is not a part of Israel. All Messianic Jews are 'Church'- a new creation. After the Church has been raptured all Jews who receive Jesus as Savor will remain a part of Israel. But in this present dispensation of the Church both Jews and Gentiles become one in Christ by means of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Not that you will accept any of this based on your prior postings on this forum. Nevertheless, the Church is NOT Israel.
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Old 08-12-2022, 11:15 AM
 
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We need to stop worrying about tomorrow (for today has enough trouble of it's own).

Oh wait, that's Jesus' teaching. We certainly can't go with that (wink) We've got to follow the lost humans, and the foaming-at-the-mouth / deranged apocalyptic types Chaos and unstable emotions will lead the way.
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