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Amos 1:11
Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Edom, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because he did pursue his brother with the sword, and did cast off all pity, and his anger did tear perpetually('ad - continuously), and he kept his wrath for ever(olam - a long time):
Did Edom wrath tear for ever, did his wrath last forever? No, he is long dead ...
Well most atheists believe they will be forever destroyed, as they dont believe in life after death or resurrection. As a matter of fact most Christians dont believe the evildoers will be forever destroyed but believe that evildoers will live for ever though being tortured the whole time. So atheists are wise and most Christians are fools according to your interpretation of the above scriptures ...
Luckily the Hebrew word 'ad doesn't mean forever to begin with, but means continuously ...
Of course the twisted and deluded minds of many of the men who translated the bible into English didnt think it appropriate to translate this word among many others appropriately ...
When all else fails....blame "the men who translated the bible into English"
"The senseless man does not know, fools do not understand that though the wicked spring up like grass and all evildoers flourish, they will be forever destroyed." Psalm 92:6-7
Psalm 92:6-7 was probably said to keep me from while maintaining my sanity more than it was for UR'ers.
Many modern Christians, like roman Catholics during the dark ages, and Hitler, would love to censor and control the language and beliefs of others by controlling information and destroying the words of others who disagree with them. The common fascist mentality. Nothing is more fascist than Christian Fundamentalism ...
I'm curious, why is so important to either side to believe or not believe it? Would this warrant a modern day Nicene Council to settle the matter?
Why is it important?
Obedience to our Lord. He tells us to charge and teach that God will save all mankind (1 Tim.2:4-6; 4:10,11).
He does not charge us to command and teach that God will not save all mankind. Most Christians think it is cool being disobedient but we'll see who gets their butts tanned when we all get to heaven by Dad.
Secondly, what glorifies God and Christ more?
Does it glorify God that He gets His thousands yet Satan his billions?
1Cr 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Has nothing to do with saved in the Lake of fire. I already dealt with this verse...here it is again:
Paul's image is a large building under construction with many men involved. Some are using good materials and some are using very poor materials. At the judgement seat of Christ the materials will be judged. Just as wood, hay and straw can't stand before a fire, false doctrine will not stand before the judgement of God. God has determined that day to determine the reward of the minister. 1 Corinthians 3:14&15 tells us about two different types of workers who are going to be exposed at that day of judgement.
The wise worker is discussed in verse 14:
If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
This is the man that has built with gold, silver and precious stones, the things that endure. He has taught the truths of the word of God, he has taught sound doctrine. Several years ago, Allen Greenspan said, "Gold is a different type of commodity because virtually all of the gold that has ever been produced still exists." Gold does not decay or rot. Build with gold because it will endure. All that we teach will someday by evaluated by God. The wise builder will be rewarded by God for his faithfulness. Wood, hay, and straw are easily found in a backyard, and it does not take too much effort to pick them up. Gold, silver, and jewels require a lot of hard work to procure. Lazy preachers and teachers will have much to answer for at the judgement seat of Christ.
In contrast to the wise workman who uses gold, silver, and precious stones is the foolish workman of verse 15:
If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
The foolish workman will suffer loss of reward, not salvation, because of his foolish teaching. The stress in this passage is not upon a man's relationship to Christ, salvation, but upon service to Christ. The foolish workman will be as a man escaping a burning house fire with his life, but all else will be lost. Each believer's teaching will be evaluated by God and that which is not true will be burned up. Everyone who teaches, whether it be at the pulpit, a Sunday school, or a any type of Bible study, or your own children, is subject to this judgement.
This is a warning to all who build others up with the word of God.
6The senseless man does not know,
fools do not understand, 7 that though the wicked spring up like grass
and all evildoers flourish,
they will be forever destroyed.
According to God, a senseless man or a fool doesn't believe evildoers are forever destroyed.
Yep. All the first Adams will be forever destroyed. Read Genesis three. Really simple with the dust and all...
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while maintaining my sanity more than it was for UR'ers.
