Conservative Protestant denominations that use traditional liturgy (Lutherans, hell, doctrine)

[SIJ95]

I'm raised Catholic, Italian American. I am disenchanted with the Catholic Church because of the fact that the pope isn't really respectable. He is coming off as desperate to try to seem relevant by being the "cool liberal" pope. I am drawn more toward religion lately and actually went to a non denominational evangelical Protestant church and I actually really liked it. Maybe it's the catholic in me but for some reason it didn't feel complete without the Eucharist and the "ceremony" I am used too. Which makes it feel more like church and gets you in the "zone" so to speak and makes you feel less like yore just going to see an inspirational speaker. However it seems that the churches that are Protestant but liturgical/Eucharist are really liberal denominations like Episcopalians who seem very permissive to me and don't really stand for anything but just look like they are trying to be relevant. I guess I could get used too the more new agey type of evangelical service but I was just wondering if there are any conservative Protestant denominations that still have set hymns/liturgy and do the Eucharist. Maybe the Lutherans? I am really kind of shopping around and seeing what's best for me because I am searching for something deeper I guess.


If you could tell me about anything I am describing or maybe link me to an actual church that would be wonderful and I would be very thankful. I'm 20 and live in NYC

[zthatzmanz28]

This Pope give me Hope..is it possible to commute to Liberty Virginia? If you change your mind on those Episcopalians or want to consider the United Church of Christ let me know.

Here is a great magnet from the UCC...

[SIJ95]

Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28

This Pope give me Hope..is it possible to commute to Liberty Virginia? If you change your mind on those Episcopalians or want to consider the United Church of Christ let me know.

Here is a great magnet from the UCC...

I don't mean to offend but the biggest turn off for me is that on certain issues these denominations feel like they are trying to stay current instead if following the bible. Example, on a secular/civil level I support gay unions but I don't understand how a church can condone gay living and gay marriage and simultaneously say they believe the bible. The original is usually right I don't want to be part of a church that diverges from hoe the religion was practiced 2000 years ago..it seems desperate and makes it seem like being the cool inclusive church is more important to them than Jesus christ.

Also I don't see what that sticker has to do with Jesus.."embrace diversity"? As in dinverse interpretations of religion? Only one can be right...it seems like more of a social justice warrior movement than a Christian church.


I feel like you're being deliberately facetious because you told me to commute from Staten Island to Virginia

[georgeinbandonoregon]

you might try looking up a parish belonging to the "society of st. pious x" which is very conservative liturgically and in dogma--it does NOT recognize the liturgical practices of the second vatican council and it's masses follow the traditional "tridentine" norms.

[SIJ95]

Originally Posted by georgeinbandonoregon

you might try looking up a parish belonging to the "society of st. pious x" which is very conservative liturgically and in dogma--it does NOT recognize the liturgical practices of the second vatican council and it's masses follow the traditional "tridentine" norms.

SSPX? Aren't they sedevacantists?

[twin.spin]

The two that come to mind that are Lutheran denominations that are conservative liturgical :

• Wisconsin Ev. Lutheran Synod http://www.wels.net/
• Evangelical Lutheran Synod

[georgeinbandonoregon]

yes, they might be regarded as such. however, if you are willing to look at protestant churches (that by definition disagree with some or many points of Catholic doctrine and practice) as potential places for worship then a "sedevacantist" group teaching traditional Catholic doctrine and liturgy should not be a terrific obstacle I would think???

OTOH, some of the "continuing (or traditional) Anglican" churches NOT affiliated with the episcopal church(like the "Anglican catholic church" and others that may be found in a phone book or web search using the term )---especially those on the "anglo-catholic" end of the spectrum---might also be worth considering for traditional liturgy and doctrine. eastern orthodoxy might be another alternative (think there are some jurisdictions with English liturgies). hope this helps.

God bless you and help you find a good place to worship. please remember that the Pope is NOT the church and to the best of my knowledge he has not officially taught or supported material heresy and his heart really seems to be in the right place despite IMHO some easily misunderstood "off the cuff" comments to the media.

[5-all]

If you're interested in the Orthodox church you could try the OCA (Orthodox Church in America) they use much more English than ROCOR for instance. Some of the Greek Orthodox churches are mostly English speaking.
Plenty of churches in NYC for you to visit.

[zthatzmanz28]

Originally Posted by StatenIslandJake1995

I don't mean to offend but the biggest turn off for me is that on certain issues these denominations feel like they are trying to stay current instead if following the bible. Example, on a secular/civil level I support gay unions but I don't understand how a church can condone gay living and gay marriage and simultaneously say they believe the bible. The original is usually right I don't want to be part of a church that diverges from hoe the religion was practiced 2000 years ago..it seems desperate and makes it seem like being the cool inclusive church is more important to them than Jesus christ.

Also I don't see what that sticker has to do with Jesus.."embrace diversity"? As in dinverse interpretations of religion? Only one can be right...it seems like more of a social justice warrior movement than a Christian church.


I feel like you're being deliberately facetious because you told me to commute from Staten Island to Virginia

You do not...Your opinion is always welcome.

If you learn the history of "religion", you will find the church has always support trendy ideas.

However, LOVE your neighbor has never really gone to the wayside, some just forgot to love when surrounded by the notion that there is ONLY ONE way to serve God. Too many of us see it as a dictatorship and have very little understanding of what it means to love pour neighbor, let alone who our neighbor is..

Why is diversity such a scary word? Many things are diverse, our diet, our thinking, our dreaming, our cars, why can'y diversity be embraced? Especially when it comes to our neighbors. Why can't we break bread with our Muslim neighbors? Our Jewish neighbors and even our Buddhist neighbors?

Our great commission is not to issue ultimatums to convert or bur in hell, our commission is to LOVE God as OURSELVES and LOVE our neighbors..on theses two simple commandments, we have allowed ourselves to be divided.

We must chose who we will serve, either God or scripture.

JESUS WAS INDEED A SOCIAL WARRIOR. He challenged the status quo and embraced diversity and broke bread with the lowest of sinners and made wine for them to celebrate!

REJOICE for God is good, if we let Him do His thing.

[SIJ95]

Originally Posted by georgeinbandonoregon

yes, they might be regarded as such. however, if you are willing to look at protestant churches (that by definition disagree with some or many points of Catholic doctrine and practice) as potential places for worship then a "sedevacantist" group teaching traditional Catholic doctrine and liturgy should not be a terrific obstacle I would think???

OTOH, some of the "continuing (or traditional) Anglican" churches NOT affiliated with the episcopal church(like the "Anglican catholic church" and others that may be found in a phone book or web search using the term )---especially those on the "anglo-catholic" end of the spectrum---might also be worth considering for traditional liturgy and doctrine. eastern orthodoxy might be another alternative (think there are some jurisdictions with English liturgies). hope this helps.

God bless you and help you find a good place to worship. please remember that the Pope is NOT the church and to the best of my knowledge he has not officially taught or supported material heresy and his heart really seems to be in the right place despite IMHO some easily misunderstood "off the cuff" comments to the media.

I suppose you're right. Sedevacantist is just a scary word I guess for someone raised Catholic.