Should Cincinnati Secede from Ohio? (Columbus, Cleveland: agricultural, suburbs, metro area)

[Ohioan58]

States of Potomac, Iroquois, Franklin, Allegheny... I LOVE it. The US of the mirror universe.

You did a really good job with the divisions and I agree with everything on this map.

Look up a book called "The Nine Nations of North America", published in the early 1980s. It covers many of the same ideas.

[jasomm]

Originally Posted by Ohioan58

States of Potomac, Iroquois, Franklin, Allegheny... I LOVE it. The US of the mirror universe.

You did a really good job with the divisions and I agree with everything on this map.

Look up a book called "The Nine Nations of North America", published in the early 1980s. It covers many of the same ideas.

Thanks, I will do that

at a quick glance it looks like the more recent regional planning organization America 2050 (http://www.america2050.org/) I took their regional boundaries into consideration as well.

[jasomm]

Whats really interesting is if you compare Garreau's 9-Nations maps of modern cultural/economic regions to the pre-columbian cultural areas established through archeology.






Really goes to show you, it doesn't really matter who settles in an area - given enough time, the area will come to define the people.

[funkenstein91]

Originally Posted by jasomm

really? I've always associated with Toledo more than Cleveland... and its not like the state lines are the Berlin wall. it will still be in the same place?

I grew up in Lorain County. We typically consider Sandusky Bay the dividing point between NE Ohio and NW Ohio, but it varies from person to person.

[jasomm]

Originally Posted by funkenstein91

I grew up in Lorain County. We typically consider Sandusky Bay the dividing point between NE Ohio and NW Ohio, but it varies from person to person.

Fremont would be NW right....
The County line between Sandusky Co and Erie Co would make sense then right? Bellevue spans across that line though... Would you consider them NW or NE? Also Mansfield would be NE then. is that legit? (Im not familiar with the smaller towns in that area)

[CincyIU29]

One thing that's popped up that I find annoying is that in addition to UC, Xavier, OU, and UK fans, Cincinnati has a lot of Indiana University fans as well. Bloomington is about the same distance from Cincinnati as Lexington is, but we get shafted in the Enquirer, compared to UK.

If Cincinnati were to leave to any other state I'd argue for Indiana just as much as Kentucky. You can bet most Hoosiers would be more than happy to give NW Indiana to Illinois and get Cincinnati instead. SW Ohio politically has a lot in common with Southern Indiana. Always thought a state that combined Cincinnati, Dayton, Indianapolis, Louisville and extreme NKY, and the rest of Southern Indiana would be interesting and cool.

In all though, sorry rest Ohio you're stuck with us and our amazing chili

[ram2]

Originally Posted by CincyIU29

One thing that's popped up that I find annoying is that in addition to UC, Xavier, OU, and UK fans, Cincinnati has a lot of Indiana University fans as well. Bloomington is about the same distance from Cincinnati as Lexington is, but we get shafted in the Enquirer, compared to UK.

If Cincinnati were to leave to any other state I'd argue for Indiana just as much as Kentucky. You can bet most Hoosiers would be more than happy to give NW Indiana to Illinois and get Cincinnati instead. SW Ohio politically has a lot in common with Southern Indiana. Always thought a state that combined Cincinnati, Dayton, Indianapolis, Louisville and extreme NKY, and the rest of Southern Indiana would be interesting and cool.

In all though, sorry rest Ohio you're stuck with us and our amazing chili

I ran into more Purdue fans in Cincinnati than IU fans.

[CincyIU29]

Originally Posted by ram2

I ran into more Purdue fans in Cincinnati than IU fans.

I find that surprising, though depending on what your field of work is I can see how that could happen. Anything engineering or tech related Purdue has its hold, but I can guarantee any of the big businesses in the area have a decent amount of IU grads/fans thanks to IU's b-school. IU has become increasingly popular at my HS since I graduated, and I know schools like X and Ursula send a lot of kids to IU too. In fact the local bar here made a Reds themed tshirt past summer. Also, once you hit Lawrenceburg you see a lot of IU stuff also. However, I know it doesn't match the influence/support of UK, but there's definitely reasons for that, and it'd be nice to see a little Enquirer coverage, considering it's about as far as OSU and UK from Cincinnati.

[SmittyXCWRU]

Originally Posted by funkenstein91

I grew up in Lorain County. We typically consider Sandusky Bay the dividing point between NE Ohio and NW Ohio, but it varies from person to person.

I grew up in the Sandusky area and we always considered ourselves more NW Ohio than NE, but certainly not Michigan . To me the diving line between NE and NW is somewhere between Vermillion and Huron, basically where the Cleveland-Akron-Lorain metropolitan area stops.

[jasomm]

Here is another interesting bit of information to visualize existing communities
Cell phone call connectiveness:


And texting Connectiveness (which is probably more representative of personal relationships, rather than business calls: