yes OTR is dangerous (crime, to buy, elementary school)

[kjbrill]

Enough said - don't go walking at night. Now if you consider this safe, we are from a different hemisphere.

I do applaud those who want to resurrect the downtown neighborhoods. I just don't want to be one of them - don't have the stamina.

[soozycue520]

Odell Owens, our coroner, was on Fox 19 this morning, and said, yes, the recent homicides look bad on our city, but the people that have been killed have all been criminals. These have been "criminal on criminal" crimes. If you are in OTR to buy drugs or to commit some other random crime, then you are in danger of being killed. If not, you are reasonably safe.

[Beanyhead]

I don't think OTR is as dangerous as people are led to believe. That area has been really improved over the last couple of months.

[Hartwell Girl]

Originally Posted by soozycue520

Odell Owens, our coroner, was on Fox 19 this morning, and said, yes, the recent homicides look bad on our city, but the people that have been killed have all been criminals. These have been "criminal on criminal" crimes. If you are in OTR to buy drugs or to commit some other random crime, then you are in danger of being killed. If not, you are reasonably safe.

Exactly. The police may not release much information but Dr. Owens always just lays it out there, he wont suger coat it. Want to know more about this City when you already think you know everything, go listen to Dr. Owens speak sometime.

[high mileage]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

The parking lot at the Eastgate Mall is dangerous, too.

I was thinking along the same lines, except the parking lot of Rookwood Commons. I got robbed there, of ALL places on a rainy night.

Those who say OTR or Cincinnati in general is dangerous probably are not fit for living in cities anyway. Cincinnati "feels" safer than my hometown of Waterbury, CT and a lot of other major cities I've been to.

[gman5431]

Drug dealers killing other drug dealers doesnt make a place dangerous. When i go to OTR i feel safe and i'm there quite often.

G Man

[soozycue520]

I listened to Dr. Owens again the other day, and he said these murders are not random. I think that was the best way to put it.

[Raw Turkey Leg meat]

In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. -Hunter S Thompson

They have laws against everything. Were all criminals. Therefore you better watch out in OTR if you go by what some guy who cuts up corpses says.

[kjbrill]

Unforunately, the OTR and other areas of Cincy are highly visible in the news today due to the current epidemic of murders.

I don't claim to have all the answers to this, but feel a start would be more effective gun control laws. I fully expect to be lambasted by the usual.
. The criminals will always have access to guns. Maybe so, but we don't have to make it easy for them. Just go to any flea market in the local area and see how easy it is to buy a gun.
. The NRA will shout we are trying to take away the rights of the sportsman. How many rifles, or even shotguns, do you see being used in these crimes?
. We have a constitutional right to bear arms. Yea, for what purpose? If you are so concerned then go and join the military. I am sure they will give you more than enough arms when they ship you off to Afghanistan or any place else we are fighting for freedom.

I am frankly appalled by the number of people I encounter in the so-called peaceful suburbs who brag about the fact they have obtained concealed weapons carrying permits. I am terrified of what lessons they are passing on to their kids.

Suggestions like give a coupon for designer clothes for every gun turned in. Is that what a life is worth today, a pair of fancy jeans or shoes?

We need more jails, which the voters turned down. We are currently the highest incarcerated population in the world's major societies, so that hardly seems an answer to me.

Sorry for coming on so strong. As I said, I don't portend to have all the answers. But I do feel we need some drastic measures to turn this thing around.

Many on this forum have expressed things are getting better. I respectfully disagree. Just why do you think people have fled to the suburbs, though areas like drugs, etc. are just as rampant there?

We have lost our way and need something to bring us back on track.

[Wilson513]

Gun bans have proven to raise crime rates. Anywhere there is a ban on guns the only people unarmed are the honest, non-criminals. It is pure unproven liberal progressive clap trap that banning guns, especially handguns, is a positive step to lowering gun violence. And, no one needs to go to a flea market or a gun show or anywhere else to buy a gun. If the criminal has a record, chances are his momma doesn't, or his 18 yo girlfriend, etc. Restrictions on guns do not affect criminals.

And, there is a little problem called the U.S. Constitution which our founding fathers sensibly made sure did not permit the creation of an unarmed citizenry.