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Old Spanish Days Fiesta Stock Horse Show and Rodeo in Santa Barbara
Rancho Mission Viejo Rodea in San Juan Capistrano.
Like I said, LA metro is not exempt.
Palmdale is the city next to Lancaster, 90 minutes from LA in minimal to moderate traffic. Those two cities comprise 250K of the 10 million people who live in LA County, i.e. 4%.
Santa Barbara is way outside the LA Metro.
San Juan Capistrano is the very far south end of Orange County and is not the LA Metro.
Again, I would wager that 90% or more of the people in LA/LA County have either never heard of those rodeos nor have even been to a rodeo.
Austin and Sacramento aren't really alike except in population. Austin has a large state university and it is the flagship campus. Sacramento has a pro sports team. All things being equal and despite the fact that I am not a huge fan of Texas, I would live in Austin over Sacramento.
As for Houston eclipsing Chicago in population, they still have 500K to go just for the city. For the metro, Houston is at 6 million Chicago at 10 million that's a lot of ground to cover. Even then, LA has 4 milion in the city and 15 million metro.
Are you talking metro or city. If city why bother. Houston surpassing Chicago on city limits is about as relevant as Jax being a larger city than Miami...
Lastly I am still not convinced that houston is larger than Philly in the real world, One thing I do know for certain is far more people live within 1, 2, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, and 100 miles of Philly than do in Houston, on these metrics it still isnt close. Also Philly has 1.4 million people that within the core 90 sq miles equivelent to the loop, it has 4 million people in the core 550 sq miles. etc.
Houston surpassing Chicago on city would be a joke given the land area, on Metro if it grew by 20% each decade (HIGHLY Doubtful for more than another 15 years or so) it would take nearly 45-50 to surpass the Chicago size. Houston is so much smaller than Chicago this conversation is actually stupid
If the loop hit 800-900K it would be far more interesting
Are you talking metro or city. If city why bother. Houston surpassing Chicago on city limits is about as relevant as Jax being a larger city than Miami...
Lastly I am still not convinced that houston is larger than Philly in the real world, One thing I do know for certain is far more people live within 1, 2, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, and 100 miles of Philly than do in Houston, on these metrics it still isnt close. Also Philly has 1.4 million people that within the core 90 sq miles equivelent to the loop, it has 4 million people in the core 550 sq miles. etc.
Houston surpassing Chicago on city would be a joke given the land area, on Metro if it grew by 20% each decade (HIGHLY Doubtful for more than another 15 years or so) it would take nearly 45-50 to surpass the Chicago size. Houston is so much smaller than Chicago this conversation is actually stupid
If the loop hit 800-900K it would be far more interesting
Agree with everything you said. By the time Houston surpasses Chicago in metro population, I won't remember this argument.
Agree with everything you said. By the time Houston surpasses Chicago in metro population, I won't remember this argument.
I said city & yes, Houston will leave Chicago in the dust within the next 10-15 years.
Who cares if it covers twice the land area it will still have the larger population. In Texas land is dirt cheap & plentiful. We're not running out of space anytime soon. Cities here are creating density & that's a fact.
Oh & BTW Houston has the largest foreign shipping port in the nation & its inside the city limits unlike LA's which is down in Long Beach.
Point of fact, there are two adjacent ports that are about the same size. The Port of Long Beach and the Port of Los Angeles. The Los Angeles port is in the city limits of Los Angeles.
I said city & yes, Houston will leave Chicago in the dust within the next 10-15 years.
Who cares if it covers twice the land area it will still have the larger population. In Texas land is dirt cheap & plentiful. We're not running out of space anytime soon. Cities here are creating density & that's a fact.
4K ppsm is not density
Also on your point of ports in the city - again gven the land area how is this relevant
When Houtson gets within 1 million of the Chicago Metor it may have meaning
Comparing these NON dense city populations is silly - for this comparison MSA or UA make more sense
Houston is actually 18% smaller than Miami on UA as of today let alone LA
Point of fact, there are two adjacent ports that are about the same size. The Port of Long Beach and the Port of Los Angeles. The Los Angeles port is in the city limits of Los Angeles.
Yet anther similarity between Houston & LA.
There is the Port of Houston then there is the Port of Galveston.
Galveston is to Houston as Long Beach is to LA.
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