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Old 11-07-2010, 01:49 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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OP or anyone else who can answer--

Just out of curiosity, why isn't lightrail included in this poll? I mean I can certainly see why buses, streetcars, and stuff like that wouldn't be included, but what's so different about a lightrail?
Its not a Subway or EL, a Subway is third rail powered that runs Grade Separated form Traffic.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:51 AM
 
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Its not a Subway or EL, a Subway is third rail powered that runs Grade Separated form Traffic.

But why should it be left out when calculating ridership? i feel like lightrail/heavyrail are fundamentally in the same vein, whereas buses and streetcars are different enough to warrant their exclusion...
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:40 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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But why should it be left out when calculating ridership? i feel like lightrail/heavyrail are fundamentally in the same vein, whereas buses and streetcars are different enough to warrant their exclusion...
No , there 2 Different types of Rail. Light Rail and Streetcars are more Similar to each other and Bus are in a different category all together.

Light Rail


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pJb0vYr6qo&hd=1

Heavy Rail


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsqCxnwFPm4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I07R9RGGoG4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu59QTeTt4
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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Looks like a subway to me!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Piuz7...eature=related
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:25 AM
 
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yeah, I guess you're right. thanks for the clarification.
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:50 PM
 
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Subway City Questions?

I am originally from Philly and have been a lifelong subway enthusiast and rider, since the 1970’s to school 7th grade thru 12th grade and to work for a few years. I have also ridden subways in New York, Boston and Washington, DC.
My questions are this:

In Philly there are express tracks where you have tunnels that are 4 tracks wide in North, South, Center city and West Philadelphia -2 tracks for local trains and 2 tracks for express trains, other than New York do other cities have this arrangement? This is a cool effect when two trains are riding side by side heading in the same direction-it's almost as if they are racing.


In Philly there are certain instances where you have tunnels that are 6 tracks wide -2 tracks for local trains, 2 tracks for express trains and 2 tracks for spur trains (in North Philly Between Girard and Fairmount avenue and at Erie avenue) do other cities have this arrangement?

In Philly you have instance where there are 4 track wide tunnels and 2 of the tracks either raise up to another higher level tunnel or sink down to a lower level tunnel. This is a cool effect when two trains are riding side by side heading in the same direction-when the other train either rises up or lowers into a deeper tunnel right next to your train.

In Philly at a major hub station-(Suburban Station) the tunnel is from 8 to ten tracks wide, other than New York’s Penn station and Grand central Terminal, do other cities have this arrangement?


In Philly you have double and triple level stations, I know that New York, Boston and DC have double level stations where two tunnels intersect, do other cities have triple level stations?

In Philly you have certain locations where you have several lines in separate tunnels merging together at one location (i.e. City Hall and 8TH STREET- Commuter Lines Train station 4 tracks- Market Street Line-2 tracks- Ridge Ave train 1 track –Patco train -2 tracks) do other cities have this arrangement?

In Philly you have abandoned subway stations and tunnels, other than New York do other cities have this arrangement?

In Philly you have a train that runs over a major bridge over the river right next to automobile traffic (Patco line on the Ben Franklin Bridge) and tunnels that run under the river, other than New York do other cities have this arrangement?

In Philly you have elevated train structures where one elevated train bridge crosses directly over another train bridge structure, do other cities have this arrangement?

In Philly the number of cars on each train varies-on the Broad street and Market street lines there are usually between 5 and 6 car trains, on the Subway surface lines (5 separate lines in total) there are usually one car trains, on the Ridge Avenue line there are 2 to 5 car trains, on the Patco trains there are usually 2 to 5 car trains and on the commuter lines there are 2 to 8 car trains. How many cars are there on other city trains, I have seen up to ten car trains in New York.


In Philly several tunnels and abandoned stations are heavily painted over with graffiti, the stations and trains are cleaner now than in the 1970’s, do other cities have this issue? There is even graffiti painted in the tunnels .

In Philly I have seen special trains for money collection-“The Money Train”, police trains and buses for getting a lot of police officers to a location quickly and special event trains for sporting events- The Phillies/Eagles Express train. Do other cities have specialty trains?


Thanks in advance for your responses. I have often wondered about the Subway System infrastructure in other cities. It’s sad that in these days and times, infrastructure like this would be considered too expensive to build, especially considering that most of the infrastructure in question was built from 1900 to the 1930’s, through the Great Depression.
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Washington, D.C. all day
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D.C. is a subway system, point blank..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPMGadEwBhE
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:38 AM
 
Location: The City
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So these are regional rail but operate underground with multiple stops and direct links to subways - seriously on fucntion very similar to the DC Metro



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DolzI0m_T9Q


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1vVmWXWm20
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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Looks like Amtrak!
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: The City
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Looks like Amtrak!

no but they also use the same stations in some parts

this is Amtrak


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGSnsa1bYys

This is the subway


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0kLIMSxq_U
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