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Phase I ($1.2 billion development cost to be delivered in the fall of 2017) will include:
- Three hotels (675 rooms)
- Two office buildings (450,000 square feet)
- Two apartment buildings (651 units)
- Two condo buildings (220 units)
- a 6,000 seat music/entertainment venue
- a three-acre park, plus numerous civic plazas
- Four public piers and a mile-long promenade
- Over 20 restaurants/bars + retail
- Restoration of historic fish market
Phase II (to be delivered in 2021) will include:
- More residential units (+/- 500 units)
- More office buildings (+/- 500,000 square feet)
- More restaurants/bars + retail
In total, the District Wharf development will encompass 24 acres of land and 50 acres of riparian rights (on/along the water).
You should do a breakdown of The Wharf, Buzzard Point, and Capital Riverfront. The images I have seen of everything at full buildout is incredible. One thing is for sure, no city I can think of will have as many restaurants actually on the water as DC. This advantage has to do with the timing of our waterfront. Cities didn't build restaurants right on the water in the past at this level. Maybe a couple, but our entire coastline will have them. The count may reach triple digits.
You should do a breakdown of The Wharf, Buzzard Point, and Capital Riverfront. The images I have seen of everything at full buildout is incredible. One thing is for sure, no city I can think of will have as many restaurants actually on the water as DC. This advantage has to do with the timing of our waterfront. Cities didn't build restaurants right on the water in the past at this level. Maybe a couple, but our entire coastline will have them. The count may reach triple digits.
You are right about that! DC will have five distinct activity centers along both rivers:
- Washington Harbour in NW DC
- District Wharf in SW DC
- Buzzard Point in SW DC
- Navy Yard in SE DC
- Poplar Point in SE DC
Yes, I forgot one! And, that one will be in NE DC, so all four quadrants will have waterfront activity centers.
DC has a major competitive advantage because it doesn't have an industrial past. Most cities with waterfronts only have a fraction of their land that can be developed into luxury waterfront because of all the industrial land and ports. We don't have all that to worry about so our waterfront can be developed all the way to the waters edge with boardwalks and restaurants full of outdoor seating.
DC has a major competitive advantage because it doesn't have an industrial past. Most cities with waterfronts only have a fraction of their land that can be developed into luxury waterfront because of all the industrial land and ports. We don't have all that to worry about so our waterfront can be developed all the way to the waters edge with boardwalks and restaurants full of outdoor seating.
Baltimore has at least three huge parcels of land on the waterfront that is ready to develop. Included are the proposed $1 billion Waterfront at Canton Crossing, the Westport Waterfront, and the Port Covington waterfront (proposed/under review). A lot of the waterfront including the Harbor Point(brownfield site) development under construction were rezoned from industrial to commercial/residential use already. So even though there is obvious industrial activity past/present doesn't mean that there is less competiveness or land to be developed/rezoned in the future for commercial/residential use. If all of these waterfronts develop or just Port Covington alone which is likely to receive TIF grant, it will be even harder to top in the waterfront game. Speaking of Port Covington Kevin Plank is already buying up property/land repurposing historic buildings and he also just purchased the city's Water Taxi service in anticipation of future development/expansion.
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Baltimore has at least three huge parcels of land on the waterfront that is ready to develop. Included are the proposed $1 billion Waterfront at Canton Crossing, the Westport Waterfront, and the Port Covington waterfront (proposed/under review). A lot of the waterfront including the Harbor Point(brownfield site) development under construction were rezoned from industrial to commercial/residential use already. So even though there is obvious industrial activity past/present doesn't mean that there is less competiveness or land to be developed/rezoned in the future for commercial/residential use. If all of these waterfronts develop or just Port Covington alone which is likely to receive TIF grant, it will be even harder to top in the waterfront game. Speaking of Port Covington Kevin Plank is already buying up property/land repurposing historic buildings and he also just purchased the city's Water Taxi service in anticipation of future development/expansion.
Yeah, I know the developers at Sagamore. What Kevin is doing over there at Port Covington will be amazing if he can get it built. The city really needs that. They need it to get through this Mayor's administration though. Trying to push this through once the new administration comes in is going to raise a ton of problems. I know it's been very controversial asking the city for that amount of tax deferment and to be honest, the city is struggling to keep up with their commitments for infrastructure. That's probably one of the biggest problems for developers in Baltimore is that the city struggles to find the money they promise for infrastructure.
As for the Baltimore versus D.C. waterfront potential debate, DC has uninterrupted waterfront for miles while Baltimore's waterfront is for the most part not activated with restaurants and retail which is vital for vibrancy. Baltimore has too many non-public uses along the Inner Harbor even. Baltimore could really use DC's model of piers and more restaurants with outdoor seating right on the waters edge. Baltimore really needs to completely redo the Inner Harbor eliminating those shopping malls and build retail that activates the water and turns to it.
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Yeah, I know the developers at Sagamore. What Kevin is doing over there at Port Covington will be amazing if he can get it built. The city really needs that. They need it to get through this Mayor's administration though. Trying to push this through once the new administration comes in is going to raise a ton of problems. I know it's been very controversial asking the city for that amount of tax deferment and to be honest, the city is struggling to keep up with their commitments for infrastructure. That's probably one of the biggest problems for developers in Baltimore is that the city struggles to find the money they promise for infrastructure.
As for the Baltimore versus D.C. waterfront potential debate, DC has uninterrupted waterfront for miles while Baltimore's waterfront is for the most part not activated with restaurants and retail which is vital for vibrancy. Baltimore has too many non-public uses along the Inner Harbor even. Baltimore could really use DC's model of piers and more restaurants with outdoor seating right on the waters edge. Baltimore really needs to completely redo the Inner Harbor eliminating those shopping malls and build retail that activates the water and turns to it.
TIF/PILOT developments that have been granted in Baltimore have moved swiftly along like the EBDI(East Baltimore Development, Inc), Harbor East/Harbor Point, and the University of Maryland Biopark. I'm not saying there is no budgeting issues but nonetheless it does not stop those new infrastructure developments.
Back on topic I honestly don't believe that you're suggesting that Baltimore's waterfront is not vibrant. For the past 40 years Baltimore's waterfront has been vibrant so obviously they got something right. You can also find restaurants on the water/retail all throughout the inner harbor area including in Harbor East and in Fells Point. I don't think you would have a top tourist attraction that could not feed the people or profit off consumers shopping habits. I also don't get how DC has uninterrupted waterfront for miles and somehow Baltimore does not have the same. There is no highway blocking access to the water. I can ride my bike from Federal Hill to the Harbor View Condominiums, pass the Ritz Carlton, to the Harborplace Pavilions, to Harbor East, on to Fells Point, and end up at Canton Waterfront Park on the water which is at least a 5.5 mile journey. The Inner Harbor is as public as you can get in Baltimore you have a public park (Federal Hill Park), a public Volleyball Beach, a public plaza, public promenade and so on. As far as modernizing the Inner Harbor plans to redo the Harborplace Pavilions, Rash Field, and the McKeldin Plaza are in the works. Lastly, how can you follow another city's model when those models are still models on the drawing board? In reality it takes time to see if a development is successful or not. First get the model built wait five years and then you can come back on this thread and suggest that your waterfront is a model for other cities to follow. Anything waterfront related and built in DC right now is not a model for Baltimore to follow.
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