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Golden Triangle, West End, and Downtown DC are all different entites and are not included together. They operate separate from each other even though they are divided by a street basically.
I think calling the area around Foggy Bottom "downtown" is a bit of a stretch.
That doesn't mean anything as a practical matter. When's the last time you've heard someone say, "I'm going down to the Golden Triangle?" For all practical intents and purposes, it's downtown.
That's my point. DC's downtown is WAY bigger than the borders show in a list or stats. They are counted as different places even though they are integrated better than any other cities multiple CBD's.
So if you're heading west on Penn. Ave, M st or K st toward Gtwn you can't tell? Or heading north on Conn. Ave? Or east on NY Ave? Or north on 7th? Or up 16th? Or south on 3rd? Come on now! DC's restricted height might have something to do with that. LA's close in areas right outside of dt may not have 50 & 60 story towers right outside of drt but its certainly built up.
Mostly agree. For DC the impact is kind of the blessing and curse all at the same time
So if you're heading west on Penn. Ave, M st or K st toward Gtwn you can't tell? Or heading north on Conn. Ave? Or east on NY Ave? Or north on 7th? Or up 16th? Or south on 3rd? Come on now! DC's restricted height might have something to do with that. LA's close in areas right outside of dt may not have 50 & 60 story towers right outside of drt but its certainly built up.
This is not downtown DC even though it looks like it. I don't know many places that have such an abrupt stop to districts without any physical boundaries to speak of.
That's my point. DC's downtown is WAY bigger than the borders show in a list or stats. They are counted as different places even though they are integrated better than any other cities multiple CBD's.
There are not "multiple CBDs." Nobody thinks that outside of a few geeks in urban planning circles.
There are not "multiple CBDs." Nobody thinks that outside of a few geeks in urban planning circles.
So you agree with me that downtown DC's footprint is only smaller than Manhattan in the U.S. We are saying the same thing. When the lists for downtown footprint have been posted on this site, it didn't include these area's FYI.
So you agree with me that downtown DC's footprint is only smaller than Manhattan in the U.S. We are saying the same thing. When the lists for downtown footprint have been posted on this site, it didn't include these area's FYI.
I'm saying that DC only has one CBD: Downtown. The different names for different parts of the CBD (Gallery Place, West End, etc.) is analogous to the different names for different parts of the Midtown Manhattan CBD (Times Square, Diamond District, etc.). The fact nonetheless remains that there's only one CBD.
This is not downtown DC even though it looks like it. I don't know many places that have such an abrupt stop to districts without any physical boundaries to speak of.
I'm saying that DC only has one CBD: Downtown. The different names for different parts of the CBD (Gallery Place, West End, etc.) is analogous to the different names for different parts of the Midtown Manhattan CBD (Times Square, Diamond District, etc.). The fact nonetheless remains that there's only one CBD.
I agree, but for comparison's sake especially when people use statistics, West End and Golden Triangle are not counted for population, office space, etc. etc. They are seen as a different part of the city. They are counted the same way the SW federal District is counted. None of these will show up on any lists together as one entity. That's all I have been saying.
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