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I look at these list all the time and I know for a fact the CW list is bogus as ever. The DC Chamber of Commerce has a list that says it is well over 100 million. I don't think DC has caught Chicago yet but Tysons Corner has 30 million square feet of space and that's a suburb.
It makes one wonder what Tyson would think of his corner if he saw it today.
On the whole the middle (GE) make most sense (am sure some areas maybe not so) but the link from CW had great detail on districts.
Like everything else it is all perspective, For example just grabing two cities from one of the lists, ATL includes DT/MT/BH while the same list only includes ME and MW for Philly yest closer CBDs like U City, Cala/City Line/CH are not included in the Philly. There will always be quible regardless of which list is used.
On DT space my gut and experience tell me it is NYC top then Chicago and DC are close as next the next set is more a crap shoot withj places like SF and Boston likely next then Houston/Philly/DFW/Seattle for CBD. Seattle is nother that can be quibbled as it includes space in the CBD and a few other hoods etc on one of them where it reaches more than 50 etc.
So short answer is none are perfect
Edit - throw LA in with the Houton group
Fair enough
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Originally Posted by DC's Finest
I look at these list all the time and I know for a fact the CW list is bogus as ever. The DC Chamber of Commerce has a list that says it is well over 100 million. I don't think DC has caught Chicago yet but Tysons Corner has 30 million square feet of space and that's a suburb.
I too think it is over 100M. My major problem with Colliers was that they had some cities really high. Notably ( DC, SF, ATL and Seattle). The rest of the Colliers list was fine.
Cushman Low balled DC, but seemed to be more up to date in other cities.
Does anyone know how they decide which districts are joined? Some of them like those in Philly and DC are a no brainer, But areas like Midtown ATL and Uptown DFW, how do they decide which ones are in and which are out???
you are not often shy with your opinion, just by looking at the numbers which list appears closer to your perception.
For example your perception has DC at 100M there is only one list that has DC close to that. Do you think DC is bigger than Chicago (Colliers), Close to Chicago but about 20M sq feet less (Grubb Ellis) or is it somewhere between Cleveland and Dallas (Cushman Wakefield)
Do you think ATL is bigger than Philly and SF or about the size of Portland and Detroit??
The poster earlier decided to only count DC's CBD according to that report, while not bothering with other major cities. To be realistic, Chicago is probably #2. I'd put DC at #3.
The poster earlier decided to only count DC's CBD according to that report, while not bothering with other major cities. To be realistic, Chicago is probably #2. I'd put DC at #3.
No, I posted numbers associated with CBD for every city.
The poster earlier decided to only count DC's CBD according to that report, while not bothering with other major cities. To be realistic, Chicago is probably #2. I'd put DC at #3.
Oh okay. 104M sounds like a good deal for DC then. That is really close to the GE list which had DC at 107M
Why did you mention Chicago? I didn't disagree with anything you posted?
Never fails with KidPhilly. I don't understand what his problem is. He will always post negative things to compete or discredit Anything relating to DC.
Most of us who have actually traveled to most of these cities could guess pretty well the top cities in the US......the eyeball test says:
NYC
Chicago
DC
San Francisco
the next ones, I would have guessed without seeing any data;
Boston, Houston, Atlanta, LA, Philly, DFW
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