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This list seems accurate to me! DT DC is more vibrant during the day than all of the other DT's with the exception of NYC & Chicago. DT DC is bigger than all of the other DT's with the exception of NYC & Chicago. DT DC has a much higher daytime population than all of the other DT's with the exception of NYC & Chicago. DT DC has higher transit ridership than all of the other DT's except NYC. DT DC has more things to do and see than any of these other cities with the exception of NYC. DT DC lacks shopping and a huge residential base.
Yim, you need to visit those cities before declaring Downtown Minneapolis and qualifying that Downtown Minneapolis is better than the cities you stated. I have been to all those cities mentioned in the last 5 years, thanks to my girlfriend's love for travel. So, I know what's better or not in terms of downtowns.
Is downtown retail really that scarce? In any case, then you'd have a rather low bar for a decent downtown. Downtown White Plains (population 60,000) has many of those stores but many of them are in a downtown mall. Similarly, the same is true of downtown Stamford, CT, which roughly the same size.
If we use retail to judge relative downtown quality, one could make an argument for White Plains as a top U.S. downtown.
Downtown White Plains has Bloomingdales, Neiman Marcus, Nordstrom, Macys and JCPenney. If you consider big box to be department stores, downtown White Plains also has urban-style Target and WalMart stores. And the Bloomingdales is one of the biggest in the U.S.
Also, they have two urban-style malls, with a third one under construction.
But I don't really think we can consider retail alone. It has to be one factor among many, unless we're going to argue that White Plains is Top 5 in the U.S. (which it arguably is based only on retail).
If we use retail to judge relative downtown quality, one could make an argument for White Plains as a top U.S. downtown.
Downtown White Plains has Bloomingdales, Neiman Marcus, Nordstrom, Macys and JCPenney. If you consider big box to be department stores, downtown White Plains also has urban-style Target and WalMart stores. And the Bloomingdales is one of the biggest in the U.S.
Also, they have two urban-style malls, with a third one under construction.
But I don't really think we can consider retail alone. It has to be one factor among many, unless we're going to argue that White Plains is Top 5 in the U.S. (which it arguably is based only on retail).
Downtown retail is an indicator and an amenity that is highly coveted in a strong diversified downtown. If you dont have it, you want it.
What's with the attitude? Andddd... yeah I have... that was a pretty terrible timelapse actually.
Haha, sorry! That might have come out more brashly than I wanted it to.
And yes, I realize it's a pretty terrible timelapse.
I just looked at this thread for the first time in a while and it seemed to me to be a little disorganized, and was trying to poke fun at that fact.
I mean on this last page alone, people have commented about White Plains, Minneapolis, DC, San Francisco, and Philadelphia. It seems like there are 50 different mini-arguments going on, and I can't follow any of it.
[sarcasm]Wow! You're cities have timelapses!? No Way! Guess what: mine does too! And I think I win....
I mean c'mon. Have you ever seen something so beautiful in your life?!
Boston = best timelapse = best downtown. (obviously)[/sarcasm]
The video on D.C. isn't just a time-lapse. Did you watch it? It's professionally done talking about economic and cultural development. The other video's seem to have been created by amateurs instead of the city governments of Philadelphia and Boston.
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