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Baltimore has narrower streets and taller buildings (taller than anything in DC with more floors) that are NOT downtown. Our definition of "more" may be different, but Baltimore is more compact and structurally dense.
Right, Baltimore was platted with narrower streets for the most part than DC was, and Baltimore doesn't have the height cap that DC does. If you're saying that Baltimore is structurally denser on a certain number of specific blocks than on any block in DC, then that's definitely true. Taken as a whole though, Baltimore is likely no longer structurally denser than DC is.
Right, Baltimore was platted with narrower streets for the most part than DC was, and Baltimore doesn't have the height cap that DC does. If you're saying that Baltimore is structurally denser on a certain number of specific blocks than on any block in DC, then that's definitely true. Taken as a whole though, Baltimore is likely no longer structurally denser than DC is.
Certain blocks are gonna be more structurally dense than certain blocks for both cities. You can find blocks in any city that will be more urban than a block in another city.
Generally speaking, Baltimore is the more structurally dense city.
I like the big streets in DC. There are huge sidewalks and then sidewalks beside the sidewalks and bike lanes.
As a pedestrian, it’s extremely pleasant in all parts of the city. No street comes to mind that was so big that it detracted from the pedestrian experience
(Thomas Circle sucks but that area is being redone
Certain blocks are gonna be more structurally dense than certain blocks for both cities. You can find blocks in any city that will be more urban than a block in another city.
Generally speaking, Baltimore is the more structurally dense city.
No, Baltimore is unlikely to be more structurally dense—there are a lot of narrow streets with two to three story buildings, but that is less structurally dense than streets two to three times as wide but built four to six times as tall. What Baltimore has is the highest peaks for structurally dense blocks among the two with some blocks, but a far minority of blocks, that are built taller than any DC block while fronting a narrower street. However, that’s the exception rather than “generally speaking”. The prevalence of these twelve story or so blocks in DC were somewhat low in 2012 when this topic was created, but they are much more common and filled out now.
No, Baltimore is unlikely to be more structurally dense—there are a lot of narrow streets with two to three story buildings, but that is less structurally dense than streets two to three times as wide but built four to six times as tall. What Baltimore has is the highest peaks for structurally dense blocks among the two with some blocks, but a far minority of blocks, that are built taller than any DC block while fronting a narrower street. However, that’s the exception rather than “generally speaking”. The prevalence of these twelve story or so blocks in DC were somewhat low in 2012 when this topic was created, but they are much more common and filled out now.
No, what Baltimore has a blocks and blocks of structural design density, now only downtown, but outside of it. DC is urban, this we both agree, but Baltimore wins out in structural density. Baltimore is an older city built well before the automobile, and has the built form to prove that. Find me some residental streets that don't have sidewalks because the bottom step on the stoop literally is the street in DC. I can find plenty in Baltimore.
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No, what Baltimore has a blocks and blocks of structural design density, now only downtown, but outside of it. DC is urban, this we both agree, but Baltimore wins out in structural density. Baltimore is an older city built well before the automobile, and has the built form to prove that. Find me some residental streets that don't have sidewalks because the bottom step on the stoop literally is the street in DC. I can find plenty in Baltimore.
This is DC's closest version of that, while there is a bit more sidewalk than what you are describing, it is still very tight on streets like Carrollsburg Pl in DC. Baltimore is more like this city wide, where as DC is more mixed use/"highrise" in most places.
This is DC's closest version of that, while there is a bit more sidewalk than what you are describing, it is still very tight on streets like Carrollsburg Pl in DC. Baltimore is more like this city wide, where as DC is more mixed use/"highrise" in most places.
No, this street in DC is as tight as Baltimore’s tight streets.
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I like the big streets in DC. There are huge sidewalks and then sidewalks beside the sidewalks and bike lanes.
As a pedestrian, it’s extremely pleasant in all parts of the city. No street comes to mind that was so big that it detracted from the pedestrian experience
(Thomas Circle sucks but that area is being redone
The last sentence being the most important.
I think the wider avenues throughout DC give the city, and especially downtown, a more "broad shoulders" feel like Manhattan or Chicago. If the District were ever to give up on height limits I think the downtown would resemble most those two cities based on size.
DC has streets in the neighborhoods that are way more intense than any neighborhood in Baltimore. Baltimore’s tight neighborhood streets are filled with row-houses. These streets in DC away from downtown is an example of that. Where is the equivalent in Baltimore away from the greater downtown core?
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