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Suburb has nothing to do with density and everything to do with commuting patterns. All of Tokyo’s built out suburbs have a density between 15,000 ppsm and 40,000 ppsm, that doesn’t make them any less suburbs or suburban they just have a high density of apartments and houses.
Agreed that suburb is about commuting patterns of a workforce (work/live); however, 'suburban' and 'urban' (or even rural), have everything to do with density and built-up environments. I definitely agree with your earlier comment about NNJ being one of the largest continuing urban areas in the country.
Some of the cities mentioned here may actually be satellite cities, which don't quite follow the definition of a traditional suburb.
Agreed that suburb is about commuting patterns of a workforce (work/live); however, 'suburban' and 'urban' (or even rural), have everything to do with density and built-up environments. I definitely agree with your earlier comment about NNJ being one of the largest continuing urban areas in the country.
Some of the cities mentioned here may actually be satellite cities, which don't quite follow the definition of a traditional suburb.
Agreed, but what I meant by suburban is a neighborhood that is 95% or more houses and not extensive commercial areas but because of how it is built out it has a density of 20,000 ppsm or more. It still suburban because it is houses next to houses next to houses but the density is high.
Most of eastern Delaware County—Millbourne, Upper Darby, Darby, Clifton Heights, Lansdowne, etc.—blends in with the urban fabric of West Philly. If someone were to take the El to 69th Street Transportation Center, they would probably believe that they are still in the city of Philadelphia. This is also true for Bala Cynwyd and communities northwest of City Avenue/along Lancaster Avenue. Bensalem and Andalusia resemble Northeast Philadelphia, and Camden resembles the urban fabric of many Philly neighborhoods. Cheltenham Township also feels like a continuation of Upper North Philly.
Leaving the Northwest along Ridge Pike is really the only place where density drops off considerably.
Emerald Street is a rather minor street in the Twin Cities that forms part of the boundary between St. Paul and Minneapolis. Take a look at the following link and you can see a strong transition from one city to the next: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9646...7i13312!8i6656
Looking east from this intersection, you are looking at St. Paul, with a large warehouse/industrial district on the south side of the street with newly developed condos on the north side of the street (built on the site of a large agricultural equipment assemply plant). Looking west from this same intersection, you are looking at Minneapolis, with a pleasant early 20th century middle class residential neighborhood.
Somehow, it all works for me. (This is considered a desirable neighborhood to live in.)
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