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There's really no point in asking whether people prefer anywhere in Cali w an area anywhere else in the country. I've noticed a lot of people on here hate on Cali, and will choose the other option before they even know what it is.
Shopping - Tie
Economy - Dallas! California does not have a future.
Local Cuisine - Dallas, it is not geared towards vegetarians like SF
Nightlife - Dallas! The nightlife is geared for gays in SF
Wow, this is about as ignorant as it gets.
1) California's economy has rebounded dramatically recently. It is now in a surplus.
2) San Francisco is widely considered to be one of the best dining cities in the Country (perhaps the world), with incredible fine dining, outstanding ethnic, amazing hole-in-the-walls. The caliber of food in SF is top notch (which is why it is one of only 3 cities in the US, along with NYC and Chicago, to be eligible to receive Michelin stars). Dallas' food scene has some strengths, but it is not in the same league as SF. I actually think Houston currently has a better food scene than Dallas.
3) San Francisco's nightlife is in no way, shape or form only geared for gays. There are couple of districts with primarily gay bars, but on the whole SF offers something for everyone. There are a diverse array of walkable nightlife districts, a ton of bars (8th most per capita in the country, see link below), plenty of dive bars, pubs, cocktail lounges, clubs, sports bars - SF offers a much wider variety and quantity of nightlife than Dallas. That said, people in bars in Dallas tend to be more outgoing and friendly, so I could see preferring Dallas' nightlife in that regard. But, again, in terms of variety, quantity, and walkable nightlife districts SF wins by a longshot. Both cities stop serving at 2 am so that's a wash (although SF has a much bigger after hours scene).
1) California's economy has rebounded dramatically recently. It is now in a surplus.
2) San Francisco is widely considered to be one of the best dining cities in the Country (perhaps the world), with incredible fine dining, outstanding ethnic, amazing hole-in-the-walls. The caliber of food in SF is top notch (which is why it is one of only 3 cities in the US, along with NYC and Chicago, to be eligible to receive Michelin stars). Dallas' food scene has some strengths, but it is not in the same league as SF. I actually think Houston currently has a better food scene than Dallas.
3) San Francisco's nightlife is in no way, shape or form only geared for gays. There are couple of districts with primarily gay bars, but on the whole SF offers something for everyone. There are a diverse array of walkable nightlife districts, a ton of bars (8th most per capita in the country, see link below), plenty of dive bars, pubs, cocktail lounges, clubs, sports bars - SF offers a much wider variety and quantity of nightlife than Dallas. That said, people in bars in Dallas tend to be more outgoing and friendly, so I could see preferring Dallas' nightlife in that regard. But, again, in terms of variety, quantity, and walkable nightlife districts SF wins by a longshot. Both cities stop serving at 2 am so that's a wash (although SF has a much bigger after hours scene).
I agree that the poster in question obviously didnt know much about San Francisco and the Bay, but it sounds like you dont know much about Dallas' nightlife. Its much more club centric than bar centric and EDM/techno/trance reigns supreme over the more vibrant areas. Also, there is quite a bit of variety and quantity in Dallas' nightlife scene. Its not a bar centric city at all.
I agree that the poster in question obviously didnt know much about San Francisco and the Bay, but it sounds like you dont know much about Dallas' nightlife. Its much more club centric than bar centric and EDM/techno/trance reigns supreme over the more vibrant areas. Also, there is quite a bit of variety and quantity in Dallas' nightlife scene. Its not a bar centric city at all.
I agree that the poster in question obviously didnt know much about San Francisco and the Bay, but it sounds like you dont know much about Dallas' nightlife. Its much more club centric than bar centric and EDM/techno/trance reigns supreme over the more vibrant areas. Also, there is quite a bit of variety and quantity in Dallas' nightlife scene. Its not a bar centric city at all.
Just to clarify, when I said "people in bars" I was actually more broadly referring to people in all nightlife establishments (including clubs). I'm not much of a club person so during my two weeks in Dallas I only went to one but I did check out several bars in Uptown, Knox-Henderson, and along Greenville (is that considered part of Knox-Henderson?). Also, saw some music in Deep Ellum. However you want to put it, I found people out and about to be more friendly and outgoing than in SF (which I think is a big plus). I know what you mean about Dallas not being a bar-centric City, but there are some places I would still classify as "bars" even if there is a dance floor attached.
And yet those "Six MSAs", which all share the same media, commuters, and sports teams (note how the San Francisco 49ers will be playing about 45 miles South in the far-off San Jose MSA in 2014) are (combined) nearly 3000 square miles smaller than the Metroplex and have far more continuous urban development than the Metroplex.
Sounds like your "MSAs" claim is more of a Census glitch than anything else and this is more than a fair comparison.
There's only two main MSAs in the Bay Area if you think about it. San Fran/Oakland and San Jose. The rest are small.
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