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View Poll Results: More relevant city in the future
Houston 155 53.45%
Boston 135 46.55%
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Old 05-20-2014, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I was just jabbing a little bit because you were downplaying the importance of an education when people could just get a "wielding" certificate.

There are thousands of reasons to get a college degree--or at least go to college. Look at any knowledge based industry. Not everyone wants to be a welder...if everyone did, that salary would be far lower.
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Old 05-20-2014, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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What I want to know is why does Houston have so little educated people living there? It has a great economy, but in regards to the college educated, it's very lacking.
And??? There's people here with no type of higher education making more than you. What's you're point??? College is not the end all, be all that it once was.
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Old 05-20-2014, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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I was just jabbing a little bit because you were downplaying the importance of an education when people could just get a "wielding" certificate.

There are thousands of reasons to get a college degree--or at least go to college. Look at any knowledge based industry. Not everyone wants to be a welder...if everyone did, that salary would be far lower.
A "wielding" certificate qualifies you to work with steel, but apparently it does not equip you to handle irony.

*edit*
whoops. *iron ;-)
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:41 PM
 
Location: A subtropical paradise
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What I want to know is why does Houston have so little educated people living there? It has a great economy, but in regards to the college educated, it's very lacking.
Poor, poor Ant, you seem quite confused, and deluded.

I'll give you that Houston is in need of a more prominent, and esteemed higher education sector. UH is decent, but could be better, and Rice is a top notch, but private university. The medical schools, such as Baylor, are also pretty decent as well.

But you can't assume that Houston does not have college educated folks; have you ever stopped to think that Houston, being the Energy Capitol of the World, as well as having an advanced medical facility, serves as a draw for brilliant young minds interested in those fields who finished their schooling, and are furthering their careers?
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Poor, poor Ant, you seem quite confused, and deluded.

I'll give you that Houston is in need of a more prominent, and esteemed higher education sector. UH is decent, but could be better, and Rice is a top notch, but private university. The medical schools, such as Baylor, are also pretty decent as well.

But you can't assume that Houston does not have college educated folks; have you ever stopped to think that Houston, being the Energy Capitol of the World, as well as having an advanced medical facility, serves as a draw for brilliant young minds interested in those fields who finished their schooling, and are furthering their careers?
But it is actually lacking quite a bit. Out of the 100 major metro areas from the Brookings study which I posted previously, Houston ranked 58th in bachelor's degrees. The only metro areas over 3 million people in the US with less were Miami, Phoenix, Detroit and Riverside (CA). For master's degrees, it ranked 62nd, beating out only Phoenix & Riverside when it comes to 3 million+ metros.

So there's really not much to brag about in this regard since when it's compared to other major cities, it ranks very poorly.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:43 PM
 
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But it is actually lacking quite a bit. Out of the 100 major metro areas from the Brookings study which I posted previously, Houston ranked 58th in bachelor's degrees. The only metro areas over 3 million people in the US with less were Miami, Phoenix, Detroit and Riverside (CA). For master's degrees, it ranked 62nd, beating out only Phoenix & Riverside when it comes to 3 million+ metros.

So there's really not much to brag about in this regard since when it's compared to other major cities, it ranks very poorly.
Exactly. I would not have made the statement I made without knowing the factors prior. Houston is very low in regards to the top populated metros.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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At this point, I think they'd both be equally relevant in the future.
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: A subtropical paradise
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But it is actually lacking quite a bit. Out of the 100 major metro areas from the Brookings study which I posted previously, Houston ranked 58th in bachelor's degrees. The only metro areas over 3 million people in the US with less were Miami, Phoenix, Detroit and Riverside (CA). For master's degrees, it ranked 62nd, beating out only Phoenix & Riverside when it comes to 3 million+ metros.

So there's really not much to brag about in this regard since when it's compared to other major cities, it ranks very poorly.
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Exactly. I would not have made the statement I made without knowing the factors prior. Houston is very low in regards to the top populated metros.
I never disputed the rankings, nor was I bragging; I've already mentioned in my previous post the need for Houston to focus on a strong higher education sector.

What I was saying, though, was that the rankings where only but one piece of the puzzle, and thus do not tell the full story; for example, others have already mentioned high-paying jobs wherr college degrees aren't needed. Logically, the presence of an advanced medical research center(largest of such in the world, and is supplemented with great medical schools like Baylor College of Medicine), and the great and powerful energy industry obviously helps draw elite talent to Houston, regardless of how it fares on "college rankings." And there are many decent schools in Houston, such as UoH, and Rice University.
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I never disputed the rankings, nor was I bragging; I've already mentioned in my previous post the need for Houston to focus on a strong higher education sector.

What I was saying, though, was that the rankings where only but one piece of the puzzle, and thus do not tell the full story; for example, others have already mentioned high-paying jobs wherr college degrees aren't needed. Logically, the presence of an advanced medical research center(largest of such in the world, and is supplemented with great medical schools like Baylor College of Medicine), and the great and powerful energy industry obviously helps draw elite talent to Houston, regardless of how it fares on "college rankings." And there are many decent schools in Houston, such as UoH, and Rice University.
TMC may be the largest of its kind, but it's far from the best...Houston as a whole really isn't a large player in the life sciences industry overall.

The stats I posted weren't related to individual colleges, but the education levels of the populace. So as you can see from those stats, while there are plenty of people with college degrees, it fares very poorly when compared to other major cities.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:02 PM
 
Location: A subtropical paradise
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TMC may be the largest of its kind, but it's far from the best...Houston as a whole really isn't a large player in the life sciences industry overall.

The stats I posted weren't related to individual colleges, but the education levels of the populace. So as you can see from those stats, while there are plenty of people with college degrees, it fares very poorly when compared to other major cities.
The TMC is not the best medical complex, but make no mistake, it is advanced, and is quite top-notch, a draw for elite talent of the medical variety. The Houston Metro area is quite decent in the life sciences industries, many great institutions, and lots of innovations and contributions.

Like I said before, those stats are only but a piece of the puzzle; there are lots of other factors in play that aren't covered by such "most-educated metro" lists.
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