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View Poll Results: Which City Has Better Architecture, True Urban Feel, Nightlife, & Culture, Baltimore Or DC?
Baltimore 30 49.18%
DC 31 50.82%
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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It's not just Baltimore, but it's usually desperate cities that try to build economies around hospitals. Every city has them, and many have teaching hospitals that receive a lot of grants. I grew up near Worcester, MA and they tried to do the same thing with UMass.

Now it would be interesting if Baltimore could snag some of the high paying biotech jobs from Montgomery County.
Really? Hopkins consistently ranks as one of the top hospitals in the country. What's DC's answer for Johns Hopkins, or University Of Md Medical Center?
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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DC's homicide count went from 88 to 105, or 16 per 100k, Baltimore had over 200 on a smaller pop., a rate of 34 per 100k.

20 years ago, DC had a higher homicide rate and smaller pop than Baltimore.. But both have flipped.

EOTR has a major construction project with the St Elizabeth's redevelopment. Go to Zillow and check out EOTR rowhouses prices vs Baltimore.
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Even Southeast DC doesn't have the kind of bombed out neighborhoods you see in Baltimore with lots of abandoned and boarded up rowhouses. The rowhouse neighborhoods of Southeast, especially along the Anacostia, are tidy and well mainted. Beyond those neighborhoods SE is more suburban with a mix of single family houses and garden apartments. Most of these neighborhodds are pretty decent. Then there are some housing projects like Barry farms that are a little rough. But I can't think of any area in SE that has that bombed out look like some neighborhoods in Baltimore. I like Baltimore too but some of those neighborhoods just look beat.
Your absolutely right. I am not comparing SE DC to Bombed out East and West Baltimore. Apples and Oranges. However The poster above you tried to state that DC has done a good job gentrifying all of its low income areas. I personally have not seen any large scale gentrification or development East of the Anacostia River, historically one of tthe most impoverished areas of the city. And also, don't be fooled by the suburban feel SE gives off. Much of the crime and drug dealing take place in the low income apartment complexes scattered across the area, and the metro stations.
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Really? Hopkins consistently ranks as one of the top hospitals in the country. What's DC's answer for Johns Hopkins, or University Of Md Medical Center?
We have Georgetown, but it's not the centerpiece of the economy. We're not forced to rely on a hospital like Worcester, New Haven, Baltimore and other past-their-prime industrial cities,
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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DC's homicide count went from 88 to 105, or 16 per 100k, Baltimore had over 200 on a smaller pop., a rate of 34 per 100k.

20 years ago, DC had a higher homicide rate and smaller pop than Baltimore.. But both have flipped.

EOTR has a major construction project with the St Elizabeth's redevelopment. Go to Zillow and check out EOTR rowhouses prices vs Baltimore.
Baltimores murder rate is actually declining while DC's is increasing. Baltimore saw 211 Homicides in 2014 down from 235 in 2013. DC saw a jump in homicides , 105 in 2014 up from 104 in 2013, and 88 in 2012
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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We have Georgetown, but it's not the centerpiece of the economy. We're not forced to rely on a hospital like Worcester, New Haven, Baltimore and other past-their-prime industrial cities,
Oh please, most post industrial cities are service oriented. DC was never industrial based like Baltimore was. Once again apples and oranges. You act like most East Coast cities weren't previously industry based cities, with the exception of DC. And Baltimores Hospitals aren't the center piece of the economy, don't forget Legg Mason, Under Armour, Constellation Energy, T. Rowe Price, M&T Bank . Just to name a few.
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:16 PM
 
Location: DM[V] - Northern Virginia
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Downtown Baltimore has 4x as many residents as Downtown DC does
Nope.

As of 2013 according to a Claritas report, Baltimore at 40,971 people within a one-mile radius of Pratt and Light intersection (#8) and DC at 39,814 people (#9) and are virtually tied for downtown population. Since DC has been gaining in this category tremendously in the last few years at a faster rate than Baltimore, DC will probably overtake Baltimore's position in the next State of Downtown Baltimore report for 2014.

Check the report for yourself
http://www.godowntownbaltimore.com/p...odt/sodt13.pdf
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:16 PM
 
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Baltimores murder rate is actually declining while DC's is increasing. Baltimore saw 211 Homicides in 2014 down from 235 in 2013. DC saw a jump in homicides , 105 in 2014 up from 104 in 2013, and 88 in 2012
the increase is because there has been an increase in domestic violence in DC, they are not random shootings. Not to mention you can't really prevent domestic violence except through education, which takes forever to get results
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:18 PM
 
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Nope.

As of 2013 according to a Claritas report, Baltimore at 40,971 people within a one-mile radius of Pratt and Light intersection (#8) and DC at 39,814 people (#9) are virtually tied for downtown population. And, DC has been gaining in this category tremendously in the last few years and will probably overtake Baltimore's position by next year's State of Downtown Baltimore 2014 report.

Check the report for yourself
http://www.godowntownbaltimore.com/p...odt/sodt13.pdf
&, I am not 100% sure, but I think those numbers exclude part time residents like university students. GWU takes up a large portion of Foggy Bottom. GWU has 25k students, so that is a huge missing chunk
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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DC's homicide count went from 88 to 105, or 16 per 100k, Baltimore had over 200 on a smaller pop., a rate of 34 per 100k.

20 years ago, DC had a higher homicide rate and smaller pop than Baltimore.. But both have flipped.

EOTR has a major construction project with the St Elizabeth's redevelopment. Go to Zillow and check out EOTR rowhouses prices vs Baltimore.
Your comparing EOTR Rowhome prices to which Rowhome neighborhood in Baltimore? Comparing it to all of Baltimore is a little much. Try comparing it to Park Heights or even Edmondson Village
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