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View Poll Results: Which City Has Better Architecture, True Urban Feel, Nightlife, & Culture, Baltimore Or DC?
Baltimore 30 49.18%
DC 31 50.82%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-07-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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well, it does gives an apples to apples comparison - that is a one-mile radius of the central part of each city's downtown area. On that comparison alone, DC's downtown density is comparable to Baltimore's downtown density (i.e. Baltimore's downtown population is not 4x DC's downtown population as the poster led us to believe).

Also, a one-mile radius from 9th and G Street NW, for instance, would not include GWU because it is outside of the circle.
I just think it is a bad measurement because it measures only a 1 mile radius not the entire downtown, which works in most cities, but since DC height restrictions it is kind of an apples to oranges comparison because Baltimore builds up & DC builds out
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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Downtown Baltimore by itself feels more dense and compact than any part of Downtown DC. Downtown DC is way too spacious and wide.
Baltimore has about 5 blocks of downtown high rises before trickling down to low rise buildings. DC has many many blocks of midrise buildings before coming down to low rise. So it is a really poor comparison, but in the end DC still has a bigger downtown, which makes it feel more urban to most
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Is this thread a joke?

Downtown D.C. +1 mile = 173,672 people
(Total City Population Density: 10,731 people per square mile)

Downtown Baltimore +1 mile = 108,752 people
(Total City Population Density: 7,690 people per square mile)


http://definingdowntown.org/wp-conte...townReport.pdf

Baltimore isn't even in the same tier with D.C. Why do people waste time in threads like this?
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Where are your Sources for DC specifically? And with all the residential development planned for Downtown Baltimore this year alone, I'd beg to differ that DC Pop will surpass Baltimores. Not to mention Downtown DC residential development and density would be limited due to the height restriction , whereas Baltimore can build 40 story high rises of residential units

You have got to be kidding!

Do you keep up with development? NYC is the only city that builds more infill dense high-rise housing than Washington D.C. and it's not close. D.C.'s downtown is going to cover 50% of the city. It's really not that far now. Manhattan is 22.8 sq. mile's. D.C. is building on the same size footprint with all high-rise's/mid-rise's and some rowhomes. Manhattan is considered one big downtown and D.C.'s core will too at full build out. It isn't even close to Manhattan and never will be, but it will be all high-rise's/mid-rise's and some rowhomes over the same footprint. The only two cities in America to do so.


2014 Residential Units Delivered:

Delivered: 6,908 units

Projects Under Construction:

Office: 17 Buildings (3,227,871 sq. feet)
Retail: 62 Buildings (1,786,853 sq. feet)
Residential: 87 Buildings (11,937 units)
Hospitality: 22 Hotels (2,320 rooms)
Education: 21 Buildings (3,515,317 sq. feet)

Total Estimated Value of Projects: $9.2 Billion

D.C. Development Pipeline:

Office: 104 Buildings (48,201,812 sq. feet)
Retail: 181 Buildings (5,550,027 sq. feet)
Residential: 202 Buildings (52,874 units)
Hospitality: 73 Hotels (4,850 rooms)
Education: 33 Buildings (4,638,022 sq. feet)

Total Estimated Value of Projects: $38.2 Billion

Source: DC Development Report: 2014/2015 Edition

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Old 01-07-2015, 10:28 PM
 
Location: DM[V] - Northern Virginia
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Is this thread a joke?

Downtown D.C. +1 mile = 173,672 people
(Total City Population Density: 10,731 people per square mile)

Downtown Baltimore +1 mile = 108,752 people
(Total City Population Density: 7,690 people per square mile)


http://definingdowntown.org/wp-conte...townReport.pdf

Baltimore isn't even in the same tier with D.C. Why do people waste time in threads like this?
I made the mistake of getting roped in to this thread, especially since DC and Baltimore are not in the same tier of city. lol. Will be a while before I do it again. Better things to do!

And, totally aware that there are 65,000 residential units (enough for 125,000 more people than today at 660,000 people), either under construction or already in the development pipeline by developers (most of which will be in the central core of the city and with no adjustment to the height limit needed). This is in addition to the 50 million square feet of office space that is either under construction or already in the development pipeline (adding on to the 136 million square feet already in existence). In 10 years (say 2025), DC likely will be so much more dense to the point that these debates amongst cities, especially the mid-size cities that are not in the same tier as DC, will diminish because it will be that much more absurd other than doing it for entertainment purposes which is what it is for the most part right now. And, DC's development potential goes beyond the next 65,000 residential units, again with no change needed on the height limit.

Nice report, too, re: definingdowntown.org The DC numbers are surely to be much higher than when this report was done for 2010.

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