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View Poll Results: More big city feel?
Seattle 21 29.58%
DC 50 70.42%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-31-2015, 11:26 PM
 
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The Wharf, Yards, and Buzzard Point will be five times the size of Seattle's redeveloped waterfront. You really should pay attention to the master plans for these developments.
Wow really the 2 mile long new billion dollar development is a fifth the size of D.C. let's see a 250 million dollar aquarium expansion 75 million dollar pike place expansion. A 100 million dollar 2 mile park . A 1.3 billion dollar tunnel. hmmm

 
Old 01-31-2015, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Please name 5 distinct reasons why Seattle's downtown would "blow DC out of the water"....Oh I can't wait for this one, I'll wait...
Not going there. I've been to both, and there is no comparison. Perhaps you should do the same. It would give you an idea of what a real Downtown can be.

D.C. will never have the well rounded total package that is Downtown Seattle.
 
Old 01-31-2015, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Also, the stores opening in downtown DC don't even have a presence in the entire Seattle metro area. These stores only open in select major markets across the world. Why are people trying to even compare Seattle to DC, they're in different tiers.
Yes, they absolutely are in different tiers. And D.C. is at least two below Seattle when it comes to Downtown.

Get back to us when Downtown D.C. has two major Flagship Department Stores and street fronting retail that still pulls suburbanites Downtown regularly. We both know that simply is not the case in D.C., and hasn't been for decades.
http://www.downtownseattle.com/thingstodo/shop/

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Old 02-01-2015, 08:52 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Not going there. I've been to both, and there is no comparison. Perhaps you should do the same. It would give you an idea of what a real Downtown can be.

D.C. will never have the well rounded total package that is Downtown Seattle.
Exactly what I expected, because you can't. The only thing tiny little downtown Seattle can compare to DC is shopping and even that due to recent developments in DC is becoming more subjective as MD said. Having two flagship stores downtown doesn't make the whole downtown a level above DC. That is only one category. Not to mention in DC you can still find stores a plenty, Hermes, LV, Burberry, Hugo Boss, Zara etc. This is only downtown not to mention the city itself has two more urban neighborhood districts that squash anything else Seattle has to offer in Georgetown and Friendship Heights/Chevy Chase. (Part of what give a city a more "big city feel" having multiple shopping districts).

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Old 02-01-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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Not going there. I've been to both, and there is no comparison. Perhaps you should do the same. It would give you an idea of what a real Downtown can be.

D.C. will never have the well rounded total package that is Downtown Seattle.
Now this is just ignorant.....
 
Old 02-01-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Wow really the 2 mile long new billion dollar development is a fifth the size of D.C. let's see a 250 million dollar aquarium expansion 75 million dollar pike place expansion. A 100 million dollar 2 mile park . A 1.3 billion dollar tunnel. hmmm

Yes, the Anacostia Waterfront Redevelopment in D.C. is 7 sq. mile's. It is one of the largest total waterfront redevelopments in the world right now.

Total Anacostia Waterfront Redevelopment at Full Build out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-xdUs7PqL8

The Yards Development (Under construction)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkPbUg-qntw

The Wharf Development (Under Construction)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZDgLHizUKc

Buzzard Point Development (Breaks Ground in 2016)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EXoL25xJhC...int+aerial.JPG

Poplar Point back at drawing board (Getting ready for RFP submission)
 
Old 02-01-2015, 09:40 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Not going there. I've been to both, and there is no comparison. Perhaps you should do the same. It would give you an idea of what a real Downtown can be.

D.C. will never have the well rounded total package that is Downtown Seattle.

Well since you couldn't come up with 5 distinct reasons for Seattle, i'll put an end to it this easily:

1. Hotels over 30,000 hotel rooms with many more on the way, Trump renovating space downtown for new hotel, new Marriott Marquis Downtown, Conrad Hilton to begin construction this summer, all of these are hotels where there are less than 6 in the country none of them are in DT Seattle. Multiple convention spaces one of the largest single convention centers in the country, Cvent listed Washington as number #2 meeting place in the country after Orlando.

Cvent's Top 50 Meeting Destinations in the United States | Cvent

2. Transit- Better public transit system as obviously Metro is #2 in the country. Beyond that though DC has the 3rd largest bike share in U.S. (NYC, Chicago), DC circulator bus, and Metrobus is the 6th largest bus system in the nation, i don't even think Seattle cracks the top 15. Union Station arguably the outer fringes of downtown but is steps away from the Capitol Building is the 2nd busiest train station in America after Grand Central Station, and will widen that gap of places after it over the next 30 years.

3. Verizon Center- Within downtown hosts to numerous concerts and events across the street from National Portrait Gallery and Spy Museum. Year round hosts to NBA, NHL, NCAA basketball, and WNBA sporting events, and this is just the downtown stadium.

4. Largest museum complex in the world- This isn't even a comparison as DC blows every other city in the country out in this category as well.

5. Multiple large venues for cultural events including Shakespeare Theater, Kennedy Center, Historic Ford's Theater where Lincoln was shot, The National Building Museum with so much more, and if we are including SW Waterfront area which is only blocks south of the Washington Monument this adds the Arena Stage venue. Obviously this is not branching all the way off into the neighborhoods of DC where there are even more venues alike and DC continues to separate itself from Seattle.

Well that's at least my five there, since I knew you wouldn't be able to compare that we'll just leave it there. Honestly there was just a DC vs Seattle thread that covered all this, DC was ahead by a 2/1 margin as it should be. We're really off topic here as this thread is about "big city feel."

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Old 02-01-2015, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Yes, they absolutely are in different tiers. And D.C. is at least two below Seattle when it comes to Downtown.

Get back to us when Downtown D.C. has two major Flagship Department Stores and street fronting retail that still pulls suburbanites Downtown regularly. We both know that simply is not the case in D.C., and hasn't been for decades.
Shop - Downtown SeattleDowntown Seattle

LOL.....

Ummm..department stores? No, we shop at city storefronts. This is a city, not the suburbs. We don't shop at malls in the city.

You may want to catch up to downtown D.C. in 2015:

I'll just name a few of the stores in downtown D.C. Some of these are open already and many will open this spring. These are all Urban Downtown Free Standing Storefronts for the following stores:

Canali
Christian Dior
Hermes
Jimmy Choo
Zadig Voltaire
Salvatore Ferragamo
Paul Stuart
Hugo Boss
Louis Vuitton
Burberry
Longchamp
Tumi
Kate Spade
Allen Edmonds
Arc'teryx
Loro Piana
Caudalie
CH Carolina Herrera
David Yurman
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.

Also, we have plenty of regular stores too just to name a few:

Gap
Forever 21
H&M
Zara
Ann Taylor
J Crew
Banana Republic
Urban Outfitters
American Apparel
Brooks Brothers
City Sports
Victoria Secret
Thomas Pink
Betsy Fisher
Nine West
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.

And, we won't even begin on Georgetown which is right next to downtown D.C. This comparison really isn't even close.

This is just the beginning of downtown D.C. shopping. There are soooo many store's headed to downtown D.C. and the retail capacity of downtown D.C. is larger than every city except NYC. That is how big the footprint is. The more first floor retail space, the more retail. It's really that simple! No city has as much first floor retail space as downtown D.C. It's really pointless having this discussion. The possibilities are endless because of our height limits. Period! It make's downtown sprawl which gives a much higher first floor commercial retail capacity.

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Old 02-01-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Yes, they absolutely are in different tiers. And D.C. is at least two below Seattle when it comes to Downtown.

Get back to us when Downtown D.C. has two major Flagship Department Stores and street fronting retail that still pulls suburbanites Downtown regularly. We both know that simply is not the case in D.C., and hasn't been for decades.
Shop - Downtown SeattleDowntown Seattle

This is how we know Seattle is not a heavy hitter:


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


"Seattle's downtown shopping district is a compact square of several blocks with brand names like Urban Outfitters, Gap and Nordstorm. Fashion boutiques like Betsy Johnson and Isadora's Antique Clothing dot the urban landscape and offer Seattle shoppers more eclectic options. Downtown Seattle shopping can feel like Fifth Avenue, especially as you stroll by fashion stars like Banana Republic or Nike occupying their own buildings."

OMG!!!!! Fashion stars Nike and Banana Republic...... LOL!!!!! This is a waste of time D.C. posters. /thread

Source: Seattle Shopping
 
Old 02-01-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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Yes, they absolutely are in different tiers. And D.C. is at least two below Seattle when it comes to Downtown.

Get back to us when Downtown D.C. has two major Flagship Department Stores and street fronting retail that still pulls suburbanites Downtown regularly. We both know that simply is not the case in D.C., and hasn't been for decades.
Shop - Downtown SeattleDowntown Seattle
Uhhhhh most of the designer stores at CityCenter are flagship stores?
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