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View Poll Results: Which city is most fast paced?
Chicago 153 55.84%
Philadelphia 121 44.16%
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:00 AM
 
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I think in general they feel pretty comparable. Both have a fast pased element.

Chicago has a very fast paced Midwestern feel and Philly a slowed down East Coast (if you think the NYC pace as the benchmark). Both to me have aspects of being faster or slower but see them fairly similar overall even if having different nuiances

I am also still not sure what Jaywalking has to do with pace. Chicago may be more difficult to jaywalk with the wider streets. Even in NYC the busier and wider streets of manhattan hardly have jaywalking - it is more a function of the environment and what it affords, Philly streets are most very narrow and easy to jaywalk and even in Philly something like JFK Blvd with the 5 or so wide lane street will hardly see jaywalking compared to say an 18th street

 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:12 AM
 
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Generally speaking, the East Coast is far more fast paced than the Midwest.

Given that we are comparing a large city on the East Coast to a large city in the Midwest, I find it very difficult to argue that Chicago is faster paced.

Philly wins this one for me, and by quite a bit.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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Philly has 1.5 million people, Chicago 2.7 million. The metros are 5 million versus 10 million. Philly is an older less spreaed out city. Chicago is the city of big shoulders. There is way more street traffic in Chicago, but it seems like less because the streets and sidewalks are so much larger.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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Philly has 1.5 million people, Chicago 2.7 million. The metros are 5 million versus 10 million. Philly is an older less spreaed out city. Chicago is the city of big shoulders. There is way more street traffic in Chicago, but it seems like less because the streets and sidewalks are so much larger.

I agree Chicago is larger but your numbers are way off, at worst Philly is 6 million (CSA 6.5 Million which is also way undersestimating the people who live in the region), with a like metric TV market DMA which basically is a proximity metric Philly is shown to be 8.5 million vs 10 Million for Chicago
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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Philly has 1.5 million people, Chicago 2.7 million. The metros are 5 million versus 10 million. Philly is an older less spreaed out city. Chicago is the city of big shoulders. There is way more street traffic in Chicago, but it seems like less because the streets and sidewalks are so much larger.
You significantly lowered Philly's metro population and increased Chicago's
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:58 AM
 
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Philly has 1.5 million people, Chicago 2.7 million. The metros are 5 million versus 10 million. Philly is an older less spreaed out city. Chicago is the city of big shoulders. There is way more street traffic in Chicago, but it seems like less because the streets and sidewalks are so much larger.
LA almost doubles Chicago's metro population but the pace of life is a lot slower than Chicago. Your population numbers don't mean anything. CC is just as vibrant as the Loop.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 11:07 AM
 
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LA almost doubles Chicago's metro population but the pace of life is a lot slower than Chicago. Your population numbers don't mean anything. CC is just as vibrant as the Loop.
Center City is nowhere near as vibrant as the Loop. The Loop is significantly larger with a much larger workforce commuting from a larger area. You are comparing the area that is the 2nd most important economic district in the US with one that probably is at the higher end of the top 10 (8-10).
 
Old 10-05-2011, 01:36 PM
 
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You are comparing the area that is the 2nd most important economic district in the US with one that probably is at the higher end of the top 10 (8-10).
Washington DC is the second most important economic district in the U.S. Definitely not the Loop.

I would say Loop is about 4th, behind Manhattan, DC, and Silicon Valley. Westside of LA is probably 5th, then SF, Boston and Philly.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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Washington DC is the second most important economic district in the U.S. Definitely not the Loop.

I would say Loop is about 4th, behind Manhattan, DC, and Silicon Valley. Westside of LA is probably 5th, then SF, Boston and Philly.
Silicon Valley is an "economic district" ...
The entire city of DC is an "economic district" ...

OK

FWIW ... Chicago Loop is the 2nd largest CBD after Midtown Manhattan... it's larger than the Lower Manhattan CBD (Which is 3rd).

Philly is probably 7th.

Midtown Manhattan
Loop
Lower Manhattan
Downtown DC
SF FiDi
Boston FiDi
Philadelphia CC
 
Old 10-05-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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The entire city of DC is an "economic district" ...
I think he means downtown DC, which has something like the third-most class A office space of any CBD in the country, and the second-most office space overall (that would include federal offices.)
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