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New York is obviously #1. In terms of core city and neighborhood reach- Chicago, Philly, and Boston all have pretty good and extensive systems. Not surprising since these are legacy cities, along with NYC.
Well, duh.
But since the topic is "best subway NOT in New York," then the answer is Washington, with Chicago a close second.
But there is a big caveat for Washington, which I believe has already been mentioned on this thread: WMATA's slacker safety culture. There have been more injury and fatality accidents and crashes on the Washington Metro in its 45-year history than any of the other systems have had in a century or more. The now-infamous Takoma Red Line wreck of 2009 revealed that maintenance was also sorely lacking, as the accident revealed that the detector circuits that kept trains apart from one another were not working properly.
Edited to add a trivia question related to this subject: Only two cities outside New York have four-track local/express rapid transit lines. What are they?
But since the topic is "best subway NOT in New York," then the answer is Washington, with Chicago a close second.
But there is a big caveat for Washington, which I believe has already been mentioned on this thread: WMATA's slacker safety culture. There have been more injury and fatality accidents and crashes on the Washington Metro in its 45-year history than any of the other systems have had in a century or more. The now-infamous Takoma Red Line wreck of 2009 revealed that maintenance was also sorely lacking, as the accident revealed that the detector circuits that kept trains apart from one another were not working properly.
Edited to add a trivia question related to this subject: Only two cities outside New York have four-track local/express rapid transit lines. What are they?
Well, duh.
The poster I responded to listed NYC as #1, which is why I said “obviously New York is #1.” I KNOW what the topic is buddy!
Asked how Metro could move forward without a rise in fare revenue, Wiedefeld said service might need to shift away from shuttling people in the suburbs and outlying neighborhoods to downtown Washington. Rail ridership has recently hovered at about 20 percent of pre-pandemic levels.
“The long-distance trip may not be the primary trip any longer, but there may be much shorter trips that are made,” Wiedefeld said.
He also suggested Metro could partner with private companies such as Uber or Lyft, with ride-hailing services handling some trips while transit focuses on other areas.
With the announcement from DC proposing $100 per month for all residents to ride metro:
It's finally time to move metro service into a true urban subway system that focuses on DC proper only. DC is going to be extremely dense soon. Development at the level we have seen in Wards 1-6 for the last 20-years is now happening in Wards 7 and 8.
As DC proper approaches 1 million people over the coming decades, having NYC level service for the city only will help metro tremendously in ridership. If DC gives the entire city $100 per month, metro stations in DC proper will boom.
turning DC into a true urban subway like NYC will takes decades
turning DC into a true urban subway like NYC will takes decades
I don’t think WMATA is talking about building new lines. They are talking about frequency. Turning trains around so they remain in the city instead of going out to the suburbs. A plan to make turn back pocket tracks already exists.
If DC is going to make metro free for people who live in the city, that’s where future ridership is anyway.
I don’t think WMATA is talking about building new lines. They are talking about frequency. Turning trains around so they remain in the city instead of going out to the suburbs. A plan to make turn back pocket tracks already exists.
If DC is going to make metro free for people who live in the city, that’s where future ridership is anyway.
Yup yup.
And even though everyone beats up on the Metro planners for the gaping hole in the network that is Georgetown, the system actually has decent station coverage in DC's urban core already and can thus serve the urban circulator function that many legacy subway networks also perform.
The T sucks. It gets the job done but its a bad experience. Real dirty and dysfunctional and IMO crime is rising ON THE T- and down elsewhere in Boston
"Transit Police report arresting a Malden man they say stabbed another man in the hand in an altercation over bowl hygiene in the men's room at Back Bay station Sunday morning."
Michael couldn't help but notice the firefighters flooding into Boylston on the Green Line around 5 p.m. The MBTA reported "a power problem" at Boylston that caused delays of up to 20 minutes on the Green Line. That's MBTAspeak for "the top of a trolley was on fire."
And even though everyone beats up on the Metro planners for the gaping hole in the network that is Georgetown, the system actually has decent station coverage in DC's urban core already and can thus serve the urban circulator function that many legacy subway networks also perform.
Exactly! The metro station coverage in DC proper is excellent especially when you take into account where growth has happened in DC proper. It has happened around metro stations in the core so metro did its job in shaping the city for TOD.
But since the topic is "best subway NOT in New York," then the answer is Washington, with Chicago a close second.
But there is a big caveat for Washington, which I believe has already been mentioned on this thread: WMATA's slacker safety culture. There have been more injury and fatality accidents and crashes on the Washington Metro in its 45-year history than any of the other systems have had in a century or more. The now-infamous Takoma Red Line wreck of 2009 revealed that maintenance was also sorely lacking, as the accident revealed that the detector circuits that kept trains apart from one another were not working properly.
Edited to add a trivia question related to this subject:Only two cities outside New York have four-track local/express rapid transit lines. What are they?
Although the express segments on the Broad Street Line in Philadelphia only exist on the sections in North Philly and Center City. Walnut-Locust is the last express stop, where you then have to get out and switch to an entirely local route through South Philly.
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