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Old 03-20-2017, 12:44 PM
 
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That may be your personal experience. I've visited all 50 states and lived in 7 of then and by far, Texans exhibit the greatest state pride. This is not necessarily a bad trait.
Which may be you personal experience and perhaps holds true if you only count states but from my travels I have learned people who live is some of the big cities show just as much big of pride towards them as people from Texas.
The only difference is the New Yorker is proud of being New Yorker while in Texas the state itself is the source of pride.
Doesn't mean Texans have a bigger chip on their shoulders as the guy from NYC.

 
Old 03-20-2017, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Center City
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Which may be you personal experience and perhaps holds true if you only count states but from my travels I have learned people who live is some of the big cities show just as much big of pride towards them as people from Texas.
The only difference is the New Yorker is proud of being New Yorker while in Texas the state itself is the source of pride.
Doesn't mean Texans have a bigger chip on their shoulders as the guy from NYC.
We agree with the bold statement. I said as much in my post regarding state pride. I can tell you that most people I run with in Philly, however, don't invest a lot of their cerebral cortex in thinking of themselves as Pennsylvanians. For the most part, people here consider the rest of the state as an annoyance.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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No skin off my back. Less people the better on the coasts.
Why would it be skin off of your back?
 
Old 03-20-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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We agree with the bold statement. I said as much in my post regarding state pride. I can tell you that most people I run with in Philly, however, don't invest a lot of their cerebral cortex in thinking of themselves as Pennsylvanians. For the most part, people here consider the rest of the state as an annoyance.
All fair enough. My only point is that it is not only Texans who get their backs ups if something in their precious state is criticized. Criticize something about Philly to bunch of guys from Philly and you watch them get their backs up as well.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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All fair enough. My only point is that it is not only Texans who get their backs ups if something in their precious state is criticized. Criticize something about Philly to bunch of guys from Philly and you watch them get their backs up as well.
Actually, native Philadelphians are pretty critical of their city and many are curious as to our reasons why when they encounter people like us who move here. I've found that many Philadelphians don't realize what a gem of a city this is. I think this is in large part that people who were born here tend to compare their city to NYC, just a quick trip up 95. I think that most people would accept that NYC raises a pretty high bar for any city to match. Transplants to Philly, on the other hand, are reveling in all the great aspects of city life we now enjoy that are lacking in the sunbelt cities we left.

An observation regarding state pride: Texas is the only state I know that blithely brandishes a threat as its motto (Don't Mess with Texas!). I compare this to the sense of welcome we received upon crossing the state line south of Chambersburg when moving here a few years back:


Flickriver: Most interesting photos from Dogtown, Needmore, PA, United States
 
Old 03-20-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: OC
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I concur. All the ring counties in PA went for Clintron. In Texas, for the most part, the core urban counties in Texas went for Clinton but their ring counties are, for the most part Trump country.

I will take issue with one part of your post. I see the Texas cities (with the exception of Austin) as more libertarian rather than rabidly liberal. I can tell you that my experience of the political climate in Philadelphia is vastly different from that of my time in Texas. I freely acknowledge that is simply my personal read. I won't debate others if they experience their local politics differently.
Lived in Texas 30ish years. Here are just my thoughts:

The valley - votes democrat, but to me they're not voting because of pro-life or gay rights. I've been told that's just how they always vote.

Austin - activists. Some will disagree, but the vibe here is different than all of Texas. Definitely a liberal enclave. Can be bohemian in feel and while super liberal, still has a live and let live feel (libertarian).

I don't think Dallas and Houston are any more liberal than most major metros, especially if you count the burbs.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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We agree with the bold statement. I said as much in my post regarding state pride. I can tell you that most people I run with in Philly, however, don't invest a lot of their cerebral cortex in thinking of themselves as Pennsylvanians. For the most part, people here consider the rest of the state as an annoyance.
Everything is bigger in California, I mean Delaware.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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Everything is bigger in California, I mean Delaware.
Huh?
 
Old 03-20-2017, 02:23 PM
 
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Huh?
Oh wow. Never met a poster from Delaware. Welcome!
 
Old 03-20-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Flickriver: Most interesting photos from Dogtown, Needmore, PA, United States
Actually, native Philadelphians are pretty critical of their city and many are curious as to our reasons why when they encounter people like us who move here. I've found that many Philadelphians don't realize what a gem of a city this is. I think this is in large part that people who were born here tend to compare their city to NYC, just a quick trip up 95. I think that most people would accept that NYC raises a pretty high bar for any city to match. Transplants to Philly, on the other hand, are reveling in all the great aspects of city life we now enjoy that are lacking in the sunbelt cities we left.

An observation regarding state pride: Texas is the only state I know that blithely brandishes a threat as its motto (Don't Mess with Texas!). I compare this to the sense of welcome we received upon crossing the state line south of Chambersburg when moving here a few years back:


Flickriver: Most interesting photos from Dogtown, Needmore, PA, United States
Well the "Don't Mess with Texas" thing started as an anti-littering campaign. It became more than what it was suppose to by many different factors.
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