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Old 03-20-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Not sure how you can measure the number of smiling gay people.
Maybe I'm more familiar with gay people than you are.

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More so, it's curious that you somehow pulled this out as a salient point in my post.
Ony as an example.

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Your post kinda proves my point, however:
Dunno about the other guy, but the only thing my post proves is that all remarks coming from a former Texas resident who looks to slight the state at every given opportunity should be taken with a grain of salt.

 
Old 03-20-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Too many of you are quick to run off with the idea that the Sunbelt offers nothing more than cheap houses and mild winters. This is nothing short of ignorance.
Glad I'm not the only one to notice people making this conclusion.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: OC
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I'd say there's an even higher number of anti-Texas/pro-coastal city/pro-legacy city posters on this forum.

Some of you just need to accept that times are changing with more and more people preferring Sunbelt cities and what they have to offer.
No skin off my back. Less people the better on the coasts.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Maybe I'm more familiar with gay people than you are.
Maybe. But I'm a man and my husband and I celebrate 22 years together later this year.
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Dunno about the other guy, but the only thing my post proves is that all remarks coming from a former Texas resident who looks to slight the state at every given opportunity should be taken with a grain of salt.
No. I don't "slight Texas at every given opportunity." I am balanced. Just because I don't think everything is perfect in Texas, doesn't mean I don't share info on its many positive attributes:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/29851910-post37.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/23457554-post3.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/19275359-post139.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/21306293-post6.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/33538272-post147.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/32774174-post15.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/29851910-post37.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/23457554-post3.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/19275359-post139.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/21306293-post6.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/33538272-post147.html
https://www.city-data.com/forum/32774174-post15.html

There are other examples but don't ya think this is enough to illustrate my point?
 
Old 03-20-2017, 11:37 AM
 
Location: OC
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I think this gets to the crux of the matter. Philadehia is one of a small handful of cities with a vibrant live/work/play downtown. That doesn't mean Philly is the better city, but in terms of their urban models, it's hard to envision that someone who prefers a sunbelt city would find Philadelphia attractive, and vice versa.

Other stark differences include climate, politics and location (see Post 102). Before I get hammered by posters proclaiming Dallas is liberal: it is . . . but not in the same manner as Philadelphia. For example, Hillary Clinton carried Dallas County with 61% of the vote compared with 84% of the vote in Philadelphia County. Perhaps more significantly, Texas is a ruby red state while PA is purplish and typically alternates between Dem and GOP governors. Before anyone claims state politics really don't affect life at the local level, they would be wrong. For example, TX has implemented statutes permitting students to carry guns on local college campuses. Really. Further, Texas is now actively pursuing the defunding of Planned Parenthood, the banning of sanctuary cities, and adoption of so called "bathroom bills." The Texas legislature also approved a bill mandating the burial or cremation of aborted fetuses (this has been stayed for now by a federal judge). It's hard to believe any of these policies could gain viable traction in PA.
Yeah, that's the thing I try to echo to mostly to the southern cities. It's not really A is better than B. It's just preferences. To be honest, I've got young kids, a city like Atlanta, Houston or Dallas works better for me. Denser, more walkable, 4 seasons, etc, all of that is important, only if you prefer it. Wichita, Kansas can work better than NYC for a lot of people. No need to be defensive honestly.


And yes, while the core cities in Texas are liberal, the burbs are pretty red. I guess you can say that about almost any major metro area, but Texas definitely seems more conservative than the northeast/coastal states.

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Old 03-20-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Yeah, that's the thing I try to echo to mostly to the southern cities. It's not really A is better than B. It's just preferences. To be honest, I've got young kids, a city like Atlanta, Houston or Dallas works better for me. Denser, more walkable, 4 seasons, etc, all of that is important, only if you prefer it. Wichita, Kansas can work better than NYC for a lot of people. No need to be defensive honestly.
Many native Texans, I've noted, tend to get their backs up when someone infers that not every single aspect of the state is superlative. The slogan "Don't Mess with Texas" didn't just invent itself. All that aside, I enjoyed my 26 years in Houston. I think my CD posts over the years reflect some of that.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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Many native Texans, I've noted, tend to get their backs up when someone infers that not every single aspect of the state is superlative. The slogan "Don't Mess with Texas" didn't just invent itself. All that aside, I enjoyed my 26 years in Houston. I think my CD posts over the years reflect some of that.
Nothing exclusive to Texans. I have found or read (especially on these forums) that most people get their backs up if someone criticizes their beloved city or area.
Go to every thread involving LA or NYC and point to something negative respectively..... and wait for the responses....
 
Old 03-20-2017, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Center City
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And yes, while the core cities in Texas are liberal, the burbs are pretty red. I guess you can say that about almost any major metro area, but Texas definitely seems more conservative than the northeast/coastal states.
I concur. All the ring counties in PA went for Clintron. In Texas, for the most part, the core urban counties in Texas went for Clinton but their ring counties are, for the most part Trump country.

I will take issue with one part of your post. I see the Texas cities (with the exception of Austin) as more libertarian rather than rabidly liberal. I can tell you that my experience of the political climate in Philadelphia is vastly different from that of my time in Texas. I freely acknowledge that is simply my personal read. I won't debate others if they experience their local politics differently.

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Old 03-20-2017, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Center City
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Nothing exclusive to Texans. I have found or read (especially on these forums) that most people get their backs up if someone criticizes their beloved city or area.
That may be your personal experience. I've visited all 50 states and lived in 7 of then and by far, Texans exhibit the greatest state pride. This is not necessarily a bad trait.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: OC
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I suppose that as DFW gets more expensive, we will actually see whether it is as desirable as the expensive coastal cities. Many people may laugh at the idea, but who decades ago would have thought the Metroplex would be as desirable as Philadelphia and Chicago (other larger cities with similar COL which are having a harder time attracting people) by now. Some people now still seem to have a difficult time believing that.
I think the great thing about the sunbelt cities is the ability to sprawl. Nothing stops them from growing. Seattle and Portland? Not so much.

Again, I have a family, I don't feel the need to have to be close to downtown Dallas, so if a further suburb saves me 30k on a house, why not?

I really like DC, but it's expensive as fock, and you dont' get a ton of house (or even a house) for your money.
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