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View Poll Results: Region with the most robust Tier III & IV cities?
Northeast 9 15.25%
Southeast 17 28.81%
Midwest 27 45.76%
Southwest 1 1.69%
West 5 8.47%
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Robust meaning cultural, economic, and political power.
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Old 08-23-2017, 01:02 AM
 
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Define Tier III/IV.
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Montco PA
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My prediction is that this thread will become a big argument about what cities make up Tiers III and IV. Let the fighting begin...
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:18 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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Well, the Midwest has cities like Minneapolis - Saint Paul, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati, so I don't think any other region can compare.
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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Well, the Midwest has cities like Minneapolis - Saint Paul, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati, so I don't think any other region can compare.

Then again we get into Mutiny's question of what's tier 3 and what's tier 4. I was thinking Minneapolis, St Paul, Indy, Cleveland, Columbus and Cinci are at least above 3 and 4, they have pro sports teams. I was smaller cities, like 100,000 to 200,000 population. Like an Akron OH vs. Springfield MA discussion.
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Well, the Northeast has Manchester, Worcester, Providence, Springfield, Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Pittsburgh, Erie, Jersey City, Newark, Allentown, Reading, Harrisburg, Wilmington, Annapolis, Arlington and Alexandria. All of these cities have comparatively small populations, due to small city proper size, but their metro areas are far, far larger. If their city propers were as large as the Sunbelt cities, most of these cities would easily have populations over 400,000. They're not robust in the sense of a booming population or economy, but they're not exactly stagnant, either. Their proximity to the Big 5 gives them a disproportionate amount of cultural, economic and political power.
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:00 AM
 
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Then again we get into Mutiny's question of what's tier 3 and what's tier 4. I was thinking Minneapolis, St Paul, Indy, Cleveland, Columbus and Cinci are at least above 3 and 4, they have pro sports teams. I was smaller cities, like 100,000 to 200,000 population. Like an Akron OH vs. Springfield MA discussion.
Tier 3 Midwest cities to me are Detroit, Minneapolis, St Louis and maybe Cleveland on the low end. Tier 4 in my mind is Cincy, KC, Indianapolis. Milwaukee and Columbus debatable.

I can't really think of another region with that kind of pedigree of mid-sized cities.
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Galewood
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The Midwest is a well defined region compared to some of the others, so my choice would be the Midwest.
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Old 08-23-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Tier 3 Midwest cities to me are Detroit, Minneapolis, St Louis and maybe Cleveland on the low end. Tier 4 in my mind is Cincy, KC, Indianapolis. Milwaukee and Columbus debatable.

I can't really think of another region with that kind of pedigree of mid-sized cities.
I assume Chicago is Tier 1, so it's odd to me to think of the Twin Cities as Tier 3. Makes me wonder what the hell Tier 2 is. Twin Cities have basically everything any major American metro area has.
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Old 08-23-2017, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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I assume Chicago is Tier 1, so it's odd to me to think of the Twin Cities as Tier 3. Makes me wonder what the hell Tier 2 is. Twin Cities have basically everything any major American metro area has.
I'm kind of with you on that. I think people waste too much time spreading cities out between tiers. IMO a tier 3/4 city would be places between like 400k-1.1mill metro pop. There's just not enough difference between a 4mill and 6mill metro, or a 2mill-4mill metro to separate them out that much.

It would be good if the OP would clarify how they define tiers.
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