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Well, the Midwest has cities like Minneapolis - Saint Paul, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati, so I don't think any other region can compare.
Well, the Midwest has cities like Minneapolis - Saint Paul, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati, so I don't think any other region can compare.
Then again we get into Mutiny's question of what's tier 3 and what's tier 4. I was thinking Minneapolis, St Paul, Indy, Cleveland, Columbus and Cinci are at least above 3 and 4, they have pro sports teams. I was smaller cities, like 100,000 to 200,000 population. Like an Akron OH vs. Springfield MA discussion.
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Well, the Northeast has Manchester, Worcester, Providence, Springfield, Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Pittsburgh, Erie, Jersey City, Newark, Allentown, Reading, Harrisburg, Wilmington, Annapolis, Arlington and Alexandria. All of these cities have comparatively small populations, due to small city proper size, but their metro areas are far, far larger. If their city propers were as large as the Sunbelt cities, most of these cities would easily have populations over 400,000. They're not robust in the sense of a booming population or economy, but they're not exactly stagnant, either. Their proximity to the Big 5 gives them a disproportionate amount of cultural, economic and political power.
Then again we get into Mutiny's question of what's tier 3 and what's tier 4. I was thinking Minneapolis, St Paul, Indy, Cleveland, Columbus and Cinci are at least above 3 and 4, they have pro sports teams. I was smaller cities, like 100,000 to 200,000 population. Like an Akron OH vs. Springfield MA discussion.
Tier 3 Midwest cities to me are Detroit, Minneapolis, St Louis and maybe Cleveland on the low end. Tier 4 in my mind is Cincy, KC, Indianapolis. Milwaukee and Columbus debatable.
I can't really think of another region with that kind of pedigree of mid-sized cities.
Tier 3 Midwest cities to me are Detroit, Minneapolis, St Louis and maybe Cleveland on the low end. Tier 4 in my mind is Cincy, KC, Indianapolis. Milwaukee and Columbus debatable.
I can't really think of another region with that kind of pedigree of mid-sized cities.
I assume Chicago is Tier 1, so it's odd to me to think of the Twin Cities as Tier 3. Makes me wonder what the hell Tier 2 is. Twin Cities have basically everything any major American metro area has.
I assume Chicago is Tier 1, so it's odd to me to think of the Twin Cities as Tier 3. Makes me wonder what the hell Tier 2 is. Twin Cities have basically everything any major American metro area has.
I'm kind of with you on that. I think people waste too much time spreading cities out between tiers. IMO a tier 3/4 city would be places between like 400k-1.1mill metro pop. There's just not enough difference between a 4mill and 6mill metro, or a 2mill-4mill metro to separate them out that much.
It would be good if the OP would clarify how they define tiers.
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