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1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. San Francisco
4. Washington DC
5. Los Angeles
You lost me after number 3.
No possible way that you could leave out Philadelphia and Boston if you are going to include DC and LA. And this is not a preference thing, its pretty much an undisputed fact that Philly and Boston would be top 5 for vibrancy. I am not totally sure what feel means, but that "feels" more subjective.
They all look the same. Every city is getting a version of these buildings including here but I do love the old buildings that make up most of downtown Milwaukee.
I guess I'll rethink a quick trip to Chicago this weekend. Maybe in a few weeks.
Such is the nature of modern architecture. The Dubai's and other Asian cities have mere cost .... less a factor to do more. I don't dislike most of the larger skyscrapers under-construction in Chicago and in the pipe-line. Once built I generally appreciate them more.
Street-level attributes especially can matter. I like they sill have setbacks not just a glass box. Each era has its common standard more replicated. I also love to see the older buildings fully restored top to bottom and repurposed.... as seen in downtown Chicago and grit cleaned and polished.
No possible way that you could leave out Philadelphia and Boston if you are going to include DC and LA. And this is not a preference thing, its pretty much an undisputed fact that Philly and Boston would be top 5 for vibrancy. I am not totally sure what feel means, but that "feels" more subjective.
Washington D.C.’s downtown is more vibrant than Center City Philadelphia and downtown Boston during the day. They are both more vibrant in some areas at night, but that is changing. Downtown D.C. neighborhoods Penn Quarter, City Center, Chinatown, and Mt. Vernon Triangle in D.C. are just as vibrant as Center City and downtown Boston in the evening now. When was the last time you were in D.C.? Have you been this year?
Washington D.C.’s downtown is more vibrant than Center City Philadelphia and downtown Boston during the day. They are both more vibrant in some areas at night, but that is changing. Downtown D.C. neighborhoods Penn Quarter, City Center, Chinatown, and Mt. Vernon Triangle in D.C. are just as vibrant as Center City and downtown Boston in the evening now. When was the last time you were in D.C.? Have you been this year?
I love how you question my knowledge as if I am some hermit under a rock. I live in Manhattan, I am from Philadelphia, and some of my best friends live in Boston, DC and Chicago. I am at all 5 of these cities several times per year and have explored all of them thoroughly. (I also work in real estate and construction).
I never took a shot at DC, but Center City Philadelphia and downtown Boston have a denser more thriving energy compared to DC. A majority of DCs most active neighborhood's are fairly new to the boom. I would certainly put downtown DC in the top 10 of the US (probably number 6 or 7), but I do not see a clear argument for DC being more vibrant than Center City or downtown Boston.
I could see DC overtaking downtown Boston with vibrancy over the next decade since DC has become a boomtown, but Center City Philadelphia is literally changing daily. I just got back from Philly last week and hadn't even since December, and even in that 5 month stretch I was amazed at the amount of energy, vibrancy, and amount of new eateries and and social options there were in that short period of time.
DC has seen quite a change as well, but it is not as cohesive as Center City Philadelphia or Boston.
Finally, I am leaving preferences out of this, I am strictly look at vibrancy and offerings, and DC is still a step behind Center City Philadelphia and downtown Boston. You can take it personal if you want, but I think my assessment is pretty accurate.
And from reading this thread and other threads regarding downtowns I think the consensus is:
1. NYC
2. Chicago
3-5. San Fran, Philadelphia, Boston (these 3 may vary by order).
DC is right behind them, but I think DC people need to swallow their pride a bit, you can't be the best at everything.
I love how you question my knowledge as if I am some hermit under a rock. I live in Manhattan, I am from Philadelphia, and some of my best friends live in Boston, DC and Chicago. I am at all 5 of these cities several times per year and have explored all of them thoroughly. (I also work in real estate and construction).
I never took a shot at DC, but Center City Philadelphia and downtown Boston have a denser more thriving energy compared to DC. A majority of DCs most active neighborhood's are fairly new to the boom. I would certainly put downtown DC in the top 10 of the US (probably number 6 or 7), but I do not see a clear argument for DC being more vibrant than Center City or downtown Boston.
I could see DC overtaking downtown Boston with vibrancy over the next decade since DC has become a boomtown, but Center City Philadelphia is literally changing daily. I just got back from Philly last week and hadn't even since December, and even in that 5 month stretch I was amazed at the amount of energy, vibrancy, and amount of new eateries and and social options there were in that short period of time.
DC has seen quite a change as well, but it is not as cohesive as Center City Philadelphia or Boston.
Finally, I am leaving preferences out of this, I am strictly look at vibrancy and offerings, and DC is still a step behind Center City Philadelphia and downtown Boston. You can take it personal if you want, but I think my assessment is pretty accurate.
And from reading this thread and other threads regarding downtowns I think the consensus is:
1. NYC
2. Chicago
3-5. San Fran, Philadelphia, Boston (these 3 may vary by order).
DC is right behind them, but I think DC people need to swallow their pride a bit, you can't be the best at everything.
You just wrote an entire book report and didn’t even address anything I said in my post. I spoke specifically of daytime vibrancy which you didn’t mention once. I then specifically referenced D.C. neighborhoods by name which you didn’t mention once. Not once did I say that “D.C.’s downtown was overall more vibrant than downtown Boston or Center City” which you mentioned in this reply. So, unless you quoted the wrong person, you didn’t answer or address a single thing I wrote.
You went on to address not taking shots at D.C. which was never implied by me that you did so...I don’t know who you meant to quote on this reply, but it clearly wasn’t me. I’m confused.....
I’m a commercial real estate developer in D.C. so I would love to discuss what is happening in D.C. with you.
I never took a shot at DC, but Center City Philadelphia and downtown Boston have a denser more thriving energy compared to DC. A majority of DCs most active neighborhood's are fairly new to the boom. I would certainly put downtown DC in the top 10 of the US (probably number 6 or 7), but I do not see a clear argument for DC being more vibrant than Center City or downtown Boston.
I could see DC overtaking downtown Boston with vibrancy over the next decade since DC has become a boomtown, but Center City Philadelphia is literally changing daily. I just got back from Philly last week and hadn't even since December, and even in that 5 month stretch I was amazed at the amount of energy, vibrancy, and amount of new eateries and and social options there were in that short period of time.
DC has seen quite a change as well
I guess a specific question for you would be what downtown neighborhoods are you referencing?
DuPont Circle?
West End?
Golden Triangle?
Penn Quarter?
Midtown?
Gallery Place/Chinatown?
City Center?
Judiciary Square?
Mt. Vernon Triangle?
Logan Circle?
NOMA?
Union Market?
The Wharf?
Capital Riverfront?
Buzzard Point?
Foggy Bottom?
SW Eco District?
Northwest One?
This is a pointless discussion without a reference point. I don’t even know which neighborhoods you’re talking about.
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Every city is getting a version of these buildings including here but I do love the old buildings that make up most of downtown Milwaukee.
