City and Metro homicides 2020 (better, crime, place, population)

[Light3991]

Originally Posted by ForeignCrunch

Especially after that awful first week St. Louis' turnaround has really been encouraging. If you delete the first 72 hours of 2020 St. Louis actually has a murder rate well below Chicago and other cities.

KC is actually beating St. Louis for the most homicides in MO so far this year (20). Let’s see if it holds

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by ForeignCrunch

Especially after that awful first week St. Louis' turnaround has really been encouraging. If you delete the first 72 hours of 2020 St. Louis actually has a murder rate well below Chicago and other cities.

Except not. This is simple math.

St. Louis had 8 homicides in the first 3 days of the new year. If you subtract that from the current total (16), then you're left with 8 homicides after the first 3 days of the year in St. Louis. At a population of 302,838 people, that's a rate of 2.64 per 100K. Chicago with 52 homicides and a population of 2,705,994 has a rate of 1.92 per 100K. That's still above Chicago's rate even if you remove half of its homicides this year (the first 3 days of the year).

[ForeignCrunch]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Except not. This is simple math.

St. Louis had 8 homicides in the first 3 days of the new year. If you subtract that from the current total (16), then you're left with 8 homicides after the first 3 days of the year in St. Louis. At a population of 302,838 people, that's a rate of 2.64 per 100K. Chicago with 52 homicides and a population of 2,705,994 has a rate of 1.92 per 100K. That's still above Chicago's rate even if you remove half of its homicides this year (the first 3 days of the year).

Chicago is at close to 60, so the homicide is right now over 2/100k, but you're right. St. Louis is, alas, still higher. I think I was using 2.1 million as Chicago's population, which is obviously wrong.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by ForeignCrunch

Chicago is at close to 60, so the homicide is right now over 2/100k, but you're right. St. Louis is, alas, still higher. I think I was using 2.1 million as Chicago's population, which is obviously wrong.

The last time Chicago only had 2.1 million people was 1910. The Chicago Sun Times has 55 homicides on record - and while Sun Times and Tribune are usually a few higher than the official because they count self defense and police related homicides which the FBI UCR omits for every city in America - it's still better than HeyJackass.com.

Anyway, here are some numbers I have which is sorted by rate per 100K descending

Baltimore: 42 homicides | 6.97 per 100K

Jackson, MS: 9 homicides | 5.47 per 100K
St. Louis: 16 homicides | 5.28 per 100K
Birmingham: 11 homicides | 5.24 per 100K
New Orleans: 20 homicides | 5.12 per 100K

Detroit: 33 homicides | 4.91 per 100K
Columbus, GA: 8 homicides | 4.12 per 100K

Kansas City: 19 homicides | 3.86 per 100K
Baton Rouge, LA: 8 homicides | 3.61 per 100K
Indianapolis: 26 homicides | 3 per 100K

Memphis: 19 homicides | 2.92 per 100K
Washington DC: 20 homicides | 2.85 per 100K
Philadelphia: 45 homicides | 2.84 per 100K
Des Moines, IA: 6 homicides | 2.77 per 100K
Little Rock: 5 homicides | 2.53 per 100K
Cleveland: 9 homicides | 2.35 per 100K
Richmond, VA: 5 homicides | 2.19 per 100K
Bridgeport, CT: 3 homicides | 2.07 per 100K
Wichita: 8 homicides | 2.06 per 100K
Chesapeake, VA: 5 homicides | 2.06 per 100K
Chicago: 55 homicides | 2.03 per 100K
Milwaukee: 12 homicides | 2.03 per 100K
Tulsa: 8 homicides | 2 per 100K

Cincinnati: 6 homicides | 1.98 per 100K
Albuquerque: 10 homicides | 1.79 per 100K
Louisville: 11 homicides | 1.77 per 100K
Sacramento: 9 homicides | 1.77 per 100K
Regina, SK (Canada): 4 homicides | 1.75 per 100K
Jacksonville: 15 homicides | 1.66 per 100K
Atlanta: 8 homicides | 1.61 per 100K
Columbus, OH: 14 homicides | 1.57 per 100K
Bakersfield: 6 homicides | 1.56 per 100K
Grand Rapids, MI: 3 homicides | 1.51 per 100K
Dallas: 20 homicides | 1.49 per 100K
Ft. Wayne, IN: 4 homicides | 1.49 per 100K
Modesto, CA: 3 homicides | 1.4 per 100K
Tacoma, WA: 3 homicides | 1.39 per 100K
Greensboro, NC: 4 homicides | 1.36 per 100K
Phoenix: 22 homicides | 1.33 per 100K
Pittsburgh: 4 homicides | 1.33 per 100K
St. Paul: 4 homicides | 1.3 per 100K
Stockton, CA: 4 homicides | 1.29 per 100K
Lexington, KY: 4 homicides | 1.24 per 100K
Norfolk, VA: 3 homicides | 1.23 per 100K
Knoxville, TN: 2 homicides | 1.07 per 100K
Shreveport, LA: 2 homicides | 1.06 per 100K
Orlando: 3 homicides | 1.05 per 100K

Rochester, NY: 2 homicides | 0.97 per 100K
Charlotte: 8 homicides | 0.92 per 100K
Corpus Christi: 3 homicides | 0.92 per 100K
Fort Worth, TX: 8 homicides | 0.89 per 100K
Nashville: 6 homicides | 0.87 per 100K
Boston: 6 homicides | 0.86 per 100K
San Antonio: 13 homicides | 0.85 per 100K
Denver: 6 homicides | 0.84 per 100K
Winston-Salem, NC: 2 homicides | 0.81 per 100K
Madison, WI: 2 homicides | 0.78 per 100K
Durham, NC: 2 homicides | 0.73 per 100K
Dayton, OH: 1 homicide | 0.71 per 100K
Minneapolis: 3 homicides | 0.71 per 100K
Oakland: 3 homicides | 0.7 per 100K
Los Angeles: 27 homicides | 0.68 per 100K
Omaha: 3 homicides | 0.64 per 100K
San Jose: 5 homicides | 0.49 per 100K
Oklahoma City: 3 homicides | 0.46 per 100K
San Francisco: 4 homicides | 0.45 per 100K
Las Vegas Metropolitan: 7 homicides | 0.43 per 100K
Raleigh: 2 homicides | 0.43 per 100K
Winnipeg: 3 homicides | 0.43 per 100k
Saskatoon (Canada): 1 homicide | 0.41 per 100K
New York City: 34 homicides | 0.4 per 100K
Toronto: 10 homicides | 0.37 per 100K
Tucson, AZ: 2 homicides | 0.37 per 100K
Toledo: 1 homicide | 0.36 per 100K
Newark, NJ: 1 homicide | 0.35 per 100K
Anaheim, CA: 1 homicide | 0.28 per 100K
Virginia Beach: 1 homicide | 0.22 per 100K
Long Beach, CA: 1 homicide | 0.21 per 100K
Honolulu (Oahu): 2 homicides | 0.2 per 100K
Fresno: 1 homicide | 0.19 per 100K
Houston: 3 homicides | 0.13 per 100K
Montreal: 1 homicide | 0.06 per 100K

Chula Vista, CA: 0 homicides | 0 per 100K
Providence: 0 homicides | 0 per 100K
San Diego: 0 homicides | 0 per 100K
Santa Ana, CA: 0 homicides | 0 per 100K

[jd433]

Houston must have been a typo

Originally Posted by marothisu

The last time Chicago only had 2.1 million people was 1910. The Chicago Sun Times has 55 homicides on record - and while Sun Times and Tribune are usually a few higher than the official because they count self defense and police related homicides which the FBI UCR omits for every city in America - it's still better than HeyJackass.com.

Anyway, here are some numbers I have which is sorted by rate per 100K descending

Baltimore: 42 homicides | 6.97 per 100K

Jackson, MS: 9 homicides | 5.47 per 100K
St. Louis: 16 homicides | 5.28 per 100K
Birmingham: 11 homicides | 5.24 per 100K
New Orleans: 20 homicides | 5.12 per 100K

Detroit: 33 homicides | 4.91 per 100K
Columbus, GA: 8 homicides | 4.12 per 100K

Kansas City: 19 homicides | 3.86 per 100K
Baton Rouge, LA: 8 homicides | 3.61 per 100K
Indianapolis: 26 homicides | 3 per 100K

Memphis: 19 homicides | 2.92 per 100K
Washington DC: 20 homicides | 2.85 per 100K
Philadelphia: 45 homicides | 2.84 per 100K
Des Moines, IA: 6 homicides | 2.77 per 100K
Little Rock: 5 homicides | 2.53 per 100K
Cleveland: 9 homicides | 2.35 per 100K
Richmond, VA: 5 homicides | 2.19 per 100K
Bridgeport, CT: 3 homicides | 2.07 per 100K
Wichita: 8 homicides | 2.06 per 100K
Chesapeake, VA: 5 homicides | 2.06 per 100K
Chicago: 55 homicides | 2.03 per 100K
Milwaukee: 12 homicides | 2.03 per 100K
Tulsa: 8 homicides | 2 per 100K

Cincinnati: 6 homicides | 1.98 per 100K
Albuquerque: 10 homicides | 1.79 per 100K
Louisville: 11 homicides | 1.77 per 100K
Sacramento: 9 homicides | 1.77 per 100K
Regina, SK (Canada): 4 homicides | 1.75 per 100K
Jacksonville: 15 homicides | 1.66 per 100K
Atlanta: 8 homicides | 1.61 per 100K
Columbus, OH: 14 homicides | 1.57 per 100K
Bakersfield: 6 homicides | 1.56 per 100K
Grand Rapids, MI: 3 homicides | 1.51 per 100K
Dallas: 20 homicides | 1.49 per 100K
Ft. Wayne, IN: 4 homicides | 1.49 per 100K
Modesto, CA: 3 homicides | 1.4 per 100K
Tacoma, WA: 3 homicides | 1.39 per 100K
Greensboro, NC: 4 homicides | 1.36 per 100K
Phoenix: 22 homicides | 1.33 per 100K
Pittsburgh: 4 homicides | 1.33 per 100K
St. Paul: 4 homicides | 1.3 per 100K
Stockton, CA: 4 homicides | 1.29 per 100K
Lexington, KY: 4 homicides | 1.24 per 100K
Norfolk, VA: 3 homicides | 1.23 per 100K
Knoxville, TN: 2 homicides | 1.07 per 100K
Shreveport, LA: 2 homicides | 1.06 per 100K
Orlando: 3 homicides | 1.05 per 100K

Rochester, NY: 2 homicides | 0.97 per 100K
Charlotte: 8 homicides | 0.92 per 100K
Corpus Christi: 3 homicides | 0.92 per 100K
Fort Worth, TX: 8 homicides | 0.89 per 100K
Nashville: 6 homicides | 0.87 per 100K
Boston: 6 homicides | 0.86 per 100K
San Antonio: 13 homicides | 0.85 per 100K
Denver: 6 homicides | 0.84 per 100K
Winston-Salem, NC: 2 homicides | 0.81 per 100K
Madison, WI: 2 homicides | 0.78 per 100K
Durham, NC: 2 homicides | 0.73 per 100K
Dayton, OH: 1 homicide | 0.71 per 100K
Minneapolis: 3 homicides | 0.71 per 100K
Oakland: 3 homicides | 0.7 per 100K
Los Angeles: 27 homicides | 0.68 per 100K
Omaha: 3 homicides | 0.64 per 100K
San Jose: 5 homicides | 0.49 per 100K
Oklahoma City: 3 homicides | 0.46 per 100K
San Francisco: 4 homicides | 0.45 per 100K
Las Vegas Metropolitan: 7 homicides | 0.43 per 100K
Raleigh: 2 homicides | 0.43 per 100K
Winnipeg: 3 homicides | 0.43 per 100k
Saskatoon (Canada): 1 homicide | 0.41 per 100K
New York City: 34 homicides | 0.4 per 100K
Toronto: 10 homicides | 0.37 per 100K
Tucson, AZ: 2 homicides | 0.37 per 100K
Toledo: 1 homicide | 0.36 per 100K
Newark, NJ: 1 homicide | 0.35 per 100K
Anaheim, CA: 1 homicide | 0.28 per 100K
Virginia Beach: 1 homicide | 0.22 per 100K
Long Beach, CA: 1 homicide | 0.21 per 100K
Honolulu (Oahu): 2 homicides | 0.2 per 100K
Fresno: 1 homicide | 0.19 per 100K
Houston: 3 homicides | 0.13 per 100K
Montreal: 1 homicide | 0.06 per 100K

Chula Vista, CA: 0 homicides | 0 per 100K
Providence: 0 homicides | 0 per 100K
San Diego: 0 homicides | 0 per 100K
Santa Ana, CA: 0 homicides | 0 per 100K

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by jd433

Houston must have been a typo

Hah yes - thanks for catching that. Did not mean to include Houston. I don't have an accurate source for the number yet.

[woxyroxme]

Cincinnati is now at 7. One dead and one in critical condition.

http://wlwt.com/article/police-suspe...967666?src=app

[SteelCityRising]

Great to see NYC and Toronto neck-and-neck! Both wonderful cities!

[KoNgFooCj]

Feels like Philly's only had about 10 in the last 3 weeks. Meanwhile, 11 minors are shot in Chicago in a 48 hour period. Smh

[KoNgFooCj]

I just saw in the 2019 thread someone posted a list on February 23rd that showed Atlanta at 12 and Charlotte at 18. Both are at 8 right now. Atlanta ended 2019 with 88 homicides and Charlotte 107. Maybe they can both end this year under 80? 2019 was Charlotte's worst year since 1993.