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I said I wasn’t going to post his videos but I found one that I could post to show the Chicago accent I’ve heard mostly. He is exactly how my cousins and his friends talk.
Baltimore definitely has more Southern nuances. Neither city is what I would consider Southern in the modern sense. Baltimore to me is very similar to St. Louis in a lot of ways. A border city with Southern nuances, but functions way more like a Northern city in 2020. Chicago has Southern culture in it's Afro-American community (there was also a large influx of Southern Whites to Chicago that many do not know about), but overall Chicago is just a huge, diverse city with many different cultural influences.
Baltimore definitely has more Southern nuances. Neither city is what I would consider Southern in the modern sense. Baltimore to me is very similar to St. Louis in a lot of ways. A border city with Southern nuances, but functions way more like a Northern city in 2020. Chicago has Southern culture in it's Afro-American community (there was also a large influx of Southern Whites to Chicago that many do not know about), but overall Chicago is just a huge, diverse city with many different cultural influences.
Baltimore definitely has more Southern nuances. Neither city is what I would consider Southern in the modern sense. Baltimore to me is very similar to St. Louis in a lot of ways. A border city with Southern nuances, but functions way more like a Northern city in 2020. Chicago has Southern culture in it's Afro-American community (there was also a large influx of Southern Whites to Chicago that many do not know about), but overall Chicago is just a huge, diverse city with many different cultural influences.
St Louis is a much better city to compare Baltimore to, in regards to this question. And my opinion there would be St Louis feels much more southern, and Baltimore feels more northeastern.
Outside of history, I just don't see these "southern" characteristics in and even around Baltimore. The south as I see it, begins south of Richmond, but even then the "south" that tends to be characteristically southern, IMO begins in North Carolina.
St Louis is a much better city to compare Baltimore to, in regards to this question. And my opinion there would be St Louis feels much more southern, and Baltimore feels more northeastern.
Outside of history, I just don't see these "southern" characteristics in and even around Baltimore. The south as I see it, begins south of Richmond, but even then the "south" that tends to be characteristically southern, IMO begins in North Carolina.
Precisely. People are very vague about how Baltimore is southern today. I think their claim is mostly based on the history of slavery and the high black population, along with the physical proximity to Virginia. I would love to be proven wrong here, btw.
Precisely. People are very vague about how Baltimore is southern today. I think their claim is mostly based on the history of slavery and the high black population, along with the physical proximity to Virginia. I would love to be proven wrong here, btw.
The high black population is due to white flight after 1950. Aside from that, Baltimore's culture hasn't changed much. Baltimore is southern, just not traditional southern like many southern cities. That just speaks to the diversity of the South. Baltimore, Miami, DC, West Texas, New Orleans. We have mountains, desert, tropical..etc
The South has largest variety of cities in the country without question. We have it all.
Precisely. People are very vague about how Baltimore is southern today. I think their claim is mostly based on the history of slavery and the high black population, along with the physical proximity to Virginia. I would love to be proven wrong here, btw.
Yeah, the only argument I hear is the whole "Mason-Dixon" line thing, which has gotten extremely outdated. To my knowledge, people in Maryland and in Baltimore don't say "y'all", don't drink sweet tea, don't refer to soft drinks as "Coke", don't on average listen to country music, are not particularly conservative, not on average Anglo-Saxon, I could honestly go on.
Baltimore itself is much more a peer to Philadelphia than Atlanta or Nashville.
Baltimore also appears to be a Catholic dominant city too:
...and is NOT a member of the Bible Belt:
And as has been discussed on this thread ad-nauseam, even the black accent doesn't sound all that southern (sounds very different from deep southern, that's for sure).
So yeah, if Baltimore is southern, it's strictly because of a historic technicality of its location, that is largely irrelevant today. In almost no ways can I point to it being characteristically/culturally southern.
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Sweet Tea is made in some local mom and pop places. I
'Id also say that most of the population is Anglo-Saxon or Black. Maybe German. Immigrants are less than 10% of the population-reminiscent of more southern cities than northeastern. Meager Dominican and Puerto Rican populations
Although known for being a high school basketball hotbed, the populace loves football ('crabcakes and football!') and college sports are noticeably more popular here in Baltimore and Maryland than in points north.
Low COL for a major city
There are also many white conservatives and Trump support here. Its far more common to meet open white conservatives and Trump supporters here than in CT or MA...I just saw a trump bumper sticker in Baltimore yesterday. I can honestly say I never saw not a one in Boston or adjacent burbs But go out of largely black SW Baltimore, only about 4 minutes into Halethorpe/Arbutus and you'll see a huge 'TRUMP' banner out on someone's lawn...This make sense Maryland because is only 50% white but went for Trump just as much if not even more than NJ CT or MA in 2016, that's because white people in the area really are that much more conservative than the far north.
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Southern Aspects of Baltimore
