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Have you eaten at any of the Michelin starred restaurants in DC? If you have not, how do you know they shouldn’t qualify? Also, if you’re questioning DC’s Michelin starred restaurants, then you will have to question every single Michelin starred restaurant in the world.
I'm not saying DC isn't a good restaurant town - I've eaten at a lot of restaurants in DC and it has some great places. 22 seems excessive, though. And - objectively speaking - Las Vegas has far more highly-rated fine dining restaurants than DC and it's not close. So why doesn't Michelin cover Las Vegas if their focus is fine dining?
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I'm not saying DC isn't a good restaurant town - I've eaten at a lot of restaurants in DC and it has some great places. 22 seems excessive, though. And - objectively speaking - Las Vegas has far more highly-rated fine dining restaurants than DC and it's not close. So why doesn't Michelin cover Las Vegas if their focus is fine dining?
Not all fine dining is all that great or Michelin worthy though. I've eaten at Tao in Las Vegas and Manhattan. The food was straight, but I wouldn't quite say it's worthy of a Michelin star.
DC is a dense urban city with lots of diversity, and international influences for it's restaurants. There's actually often times DC chefs open up restaurants in Vegas and vice versa. That 22 number is just the District itself too, not even the total core area, or entire region's metro.
Two Las Vegas restaurants announced DC expansions within the last 6 months:
Hell's Kitchen first East Coast outpost to open in DC this fall:
I'm not saying DC isn't a good restaurant town - I've eaten at a lot of restaurants in DC and it has some great places. 22 seems excessive, though. And - objectively speaking - Las Vegas has far more highly-rated fine dining restaurants than DC and it's not close. So why doesn't Michelin cover Las Vegas if their focus is fine dining?
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I'm not saying DC isn't a good restaurant town - I've eaten at a lot of restaurants in DC and it has some great places. 22 seems excessive, though. And - objectively speaking - Las Vegas has far more highly-rated fine dining restaurants than DC and it's not close. So why doesn't Michelin cover Las Vegas if their focus is fine dining?
The top 100 independent restaurants in the US by gross sales 2019:
Is that your way of saying you've never lived in NYC? I'm not sure that was very clearly communicated. I was in NYC last Halloween as well--and I've been here for a lot of Halloweens and have been mostly in NYC since that last Halloween since I live here.
It is certainly possible that there are different patterns for different demographics. I am not a black professional and having black friends doesn't mean I can speak to what black professionals generally do. Now that you mention it, for whatever reason, some of these spots I've gone out to don't seem to have sizable black professional components to them and I wonder what the historic context is to that and that is pretty interesting to me. Though if I had to guess, and this is a real wild one, it may have something to do if not contemporarily, then at least historically, with racism. I recognize that NYC is very, very populous and very, very diverse and there are people that can have very different experiences of the same city. I've stated as such, and I think a blanket statement about people in NYC "unless they absolutely have to" not going out to the Hamptons, Catskills, Hudson Valley, Poconos, Jersey Shore, etc. isn't going to be very accurate characterization for such a diverse and large population.
Remember, I pointed to the Bay Area Michelin Guide as an example of there being coverage of a metropolitan area that includes suburbs including some very suburban places. That's what I'm comparing to. It doesn't mean that it's about people living in the city leaving work for a 7 pm dinner an hour and a half away in the suburbs for dinner at any great frequency. That's certainly not how that works in the Bay Area either. I am saying that since it exists for the Bay Area, then it'd be great if it existed for NYC. That goes especially for me, because we pretty frequently leave the city proper.
I feel like the only people who do not leave Manhattan are either very new to the city (a few years) or old time boomers. The best food in NYC is in Brooklyn and Queens.
Old Ebbitt Grill the highest gross in DC? Yikes. Also no way is Carmine's average ticket only $37 lol. The one in DC is expensive as it is.
I find it interesting that the one Philadelphia-area restaurant in the top 100 is a branch of a DC-based restaurant (Founding Farmers) located in King of Prussia.
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Old Ebbitt Grill the highest gross in DC? Yikes. Also no way is Carmine's average ticket only $37 lol. The one in DC is expensive as it is.
Absolutely it's a block away from the White House, and a staple of Washington. It also had over 1 million meals served that year if you peeped the right column, by far the most in the nation.
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