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The Olympics are terrible on the economies of the cities that build up these infrastructures and have to maintain them. I would say Atlanta benefited from hosting them a long time ago, and most of its facilities now have been moved to convention centers or still nature projects. Also, not all places in the US can support the summer sports. Is there a river good for whitewater rafting competitions? Atlanta used the Toccoa (one of the only north-flowing rivers in the world) that goes into Tennessee. Does LA have such an option, or did LA dam it all up for water and power?
In 84 canoeing and rowing was in Lake Casitas in Ventura county. Shooting was in Chino (Prado Park). Water Polo was in Malibu at Pepperdine. Sailing was in Long Beach.
You could argue 3 "centers" of the olympics: the Coliseum where the opening and closing ceremonies were, the Olympic village at USC or the Athletes village at UCLA.
Lake Casitas is 80 miles from USC or the Coliseum.
Prado park is 43 miles from the Coliseum.
In 28, canoeing, kayaking, and rowing is planned to be in either Sepulveda Basin Park (LA, Van Nuys, Encino, or Sherman Oaks depending on where they build it) or Long Beach. Shooting is going to be at Sepulveda. Water Polo in Long beach. Sailing at Long Beach. 28 will be a much more compact games EXCEPT the preliminary football matches - they are planning on playing at the Rose Bowl, SoFi, BMO, and the 49ers stadium, UC Berkley's, Stanford's, and in San Jose.
In the 24 bid, Boston would have had the canoeing and kayaking way out on the Connecticut and Deerfield rivers in Deerfield and Westfield. 99 miles from Seaport! Rowing was planned on the Merrimack in Lowell - why not the Charles?? - but just 30 miles from Seaport. Boxing was planned at UMass Lowell's basketball arena. Basketball would be at the Garden. Mountain Biking would be at Nashoba Valley, 30 miles from Seaport.
Athletes Village was planned at Bayside Expo in Dorchester. In 2015, that was the location of a failed mall that became an expo center that UMass Boston bought in 2010 after it closed and went in to foreclosure. In 2015 the roof collapsed under 40"+ of snow .
Seattle looks terrible with 3 total, and even that counts our Stanley Cup before it was really the Stanley Cup (or so hockey people tell me). Even MLS only gets us to 5. Can we count WNBA, rugby, and college sports to at least reach double figures?
It would be interesting to see the data kept to this century. 23 years is a really long time.
I would include MLS wins too.
Heck making the playoffs is a big deal. There are teams that make championship games frequently but didn't close the deal. I bet those cities were all buzzing just because the team made it that far.
Houston Astros has been in 4 of the last 6 World series. The 2 wins doesn't give a full picture of the last few years
Seattle looks terrible with 3 total, and even that counts our Stanley Cup before it was really the Stanley Cup (or so hockey people tell me). Even MLS only gets us to 5. Can we count WNBA, rugby, and college sports to at least reach double figures?
Yeah throwing in other sports outside "the big 4" makes this a turkey shoot.
Baltimore is the mecca for US Lacrosse and host The Preakness & Maryland Cycling Classic, but how do you even compare that Denver's NBA & NHL team which Baltimore lacks.
Two, a nice, non-subsidized arena might rely on a lack of competing arenas. Seattle had some trouble with earlier arena concepts due to Key Arena's existence (it was mostly rebuilt as Climate Pledge, solving the problem and potentially opening the way for the NBA's return). Smaller cities might not have this issue as often.
Three, if the bigger city isn't as passionate about a team, it might be harder to pass public support, whether that's a major subsidy or smaller offsite work like street redos.
Four, bigger cities can require more time to get to games. An hour trip after a 10:00 ending on a weeknight can be too much.
I'm just spitballing here, and these aren't necessarily applicable to these cities.
Seattle looks terrible with 3 total, and even that counts our Stanley Cup before it was really the Stanley Cup (or so hockey people tell me). Even MLS only gets us to 5. Can we count WNBA, rugby, and college sports to at least reach double figures?
Was there a total numbers of sports championships by city posted? I missed it and can’t find it but I see a list on Wikipedia. It doesn’t surprise me and generally follows the poll.
Was there a total numbers of sports championships by city posted? I missed it and can’t find it but I see a list on Wikipedia. It doesn’t surprise me and generally follows the poll.
Unsurprisingly, it’s New York, Boston, and Chicago as far as “the big four” sports. Although I don’t understand certain data, e.g. the Bears winning 11 NFL Superbowls and Championships. I think it’s 9.
Minneapolis is a secondtier city in terms of revenue. Let's stop trying to push this narrative it's up there with the big boys. It's below Phoenix of all cities.
Minneapolis is a secondtier city in terms of revenue. Let's stop trying to push this narrative it's up there with the big boys. It's below Phoenix of all cities.
Also AAA baseball is really reaching to the back of the fridge for a thread like this.
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