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Old 10-05-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by AK123 View Post
If Houston and Dallas were located next to each other, that metro would be a force to be reckoned with.

Houston a "World Capital of the Future"
"Last year, Houston and Dallas grew more than any other metropolitan region in the country; over the past decade, their populations have increased six times more rapidly than New York, Los Angeles, Chicago or San Francisco.
But it's not all a demographic game; cities like Phoenix and Las Vegas have similarly enjoyed rapid growth but do not fit on the rising global cities list. The key difference lies in the Texan cities' rising corporate power. Houston, with 27 Fortune 500 firms, has passed Chicago in the number of Fortune 500 companies, while Dallas, with 14, ranks third. Together, the two Texan cities account for about as many Fortune firms as New York, once home to almost a third of the nation's largest companies."

World Capitals Of The Future - Houston and Dallas
I wonder.

Does the writer of this article suppose that the 100+ F500 companies in the Greater NYC area are simply there by coincidence? That being near NYC has nothing to do with their locations?

LOL
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:35 PM
 
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I wonder.

Does the writer of this article suppose that the 100+ F500 companies in the Greater NYC area are simply there by coincidence? That being near NYC has nothing to do with their locations?

LOL
The writer is simply pointing out the rising corporate power in Houston and Dallas
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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I don't see any conceivable way that you can list the top five most important cities in the nation, and neglect to include Washington--where decisions are made that affect the entire country (and the world, for that matter). Seattle of more national significance than DC? I should think not.
LMAO, You ranked Seattle and Houston above Chicago? You have to be kidding! Didn't Boeing even defect it's headquarters’ from Seattle to Chicago? LOL Seattle's economy is nowhere near as diversified as Chicago's nor Houston's for that matter (just a little hint: diversification of one's economy equates to survivability during turbulent economic times).

While I agree that Houston dominates in energy and deserves ranking, it's economy still has a ways to go before it reflects the diversification and overall magnitude of Chicago's. As earlier posters have stated, it's the GDP. Chicago’s GDP currently rests at $460 billion while Houston and Seattle’s is $235 and $185 respectively. You do the math.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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The writer is simply pointing out the rising corporate power in Houston and Dallas
And you don't think the lovely little economic downturn of the late eighties and nineties couldn't rear it's ugly head for a future Houston and Dallas.
Remember that skyscraper construction ground to halt in both cities and population growth stagnated.

I believe that the two still have a ways to go in the diverisification arena before they could be copnsidered protected from a repeat of that situation.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Hell why not....

1. NYC
2. LA
3. DC
4. Chicago
5. SF

6. Boston
7. Philly
8. Houston
9. Dallas
10. Miami
How could you place Dallas and Houston,then include Miami,but not mention Atlanta?Miami does not belong on any list as far as being influential.Miami is known for NO political power,NO business clout,and No major cultural contribution to the U.S.nor is it a education center for higher learning or research.Unless you would care to enlighten me this is a crazy IMO.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Krudmonk the entire western flank of the Bay Area looks like this.



More than 50% of Bay Areas potential real estate is under water. Not only is sprawl ill-advised its entirely impossible in 50% of The Bay Area. Its Ok to toot your horn for having a landscape that necessitates density, its something entirely different by boasting that the density was by design. Compared to a metro like Philadephia the Bay Area has 1/4 of the buildable land when taking into account the Pacific Ocean, Bays and Mountain ranges.

Lets try and keep it real here.
Maybe he meant that suburb called "ATLANTIS".LOL11Talk about SPRAWL!!
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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How could you place Dallas and Houston,then include Miami,but not mention Atlanta?Miami does not belong on any list as far as being influential.Miami is known for NO political power,NO business clout,and No major cultural contribution to the U.S.nor is it a education center for higher learning or research.Unless you would care to enlighten me this is a crazy IMO.
Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta seem to be birds of a feather. Sometimes its hard to mention one of the three without including the other two.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta seem to be birds of a feather. Sometimes its hard to mention one of the three without including the other two.
Agreed. If one city make the list; they all have to make it.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:49 PM
 
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Are you serious?

Where are you going to sprawl to. The Pacific Ocean? The Diablo Range? The SF Bay.To chalk up Bay Areas high density to superior regional planning is incredulous. Your density is by necessity not design. You have outdone yourself on this one which I didnt think was possible.

Unbelievable.
Yeah! Unbelievable!! You tell those Bay Area folks that think they did something right by maintaining parks and wildlife preserves!

Hey genius, I know the only thing that ruins your day more than Philly not being praised as Heaven on Earth is Bay Area residents acknowledging or taking pride in positive aspects of our region, but you're severely incorrect here AS USUAL. If you had any knowledge whatsoever of what you were talking about you'd realize that there is an abundance of space to sprawl into if we had chosen to do so. Where do you get your info?

Have you even looked at Sonoma, Napa, Marin, Santa Clara, Alameda or Solano counties?? Look at the land space vs. the populations. Certain areas already do sprawl, like the ENTIRE Silicon Valley. But of course you didn't know that b/c you know nothing accurate about the Bay Area. Yet for some reason you insist on spitting out knowledge as though you do.

Ever heard of Pittsburg? Antioch? American Canyon? Any of these sprawling areas that still have room to grow? There are a ton of them in this region, and there could be a lot more if we didn't protect our wildlife preserves.

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Krudmonk the entire western flank of the Bay Area looks like this.
So does the entire eastern flank of Chicago, Boston or Miami, so what?? Costal cities all deal with such an inconvenience.

What you should be looking at in this regard is the fact that SF's northern and eastern flanks are surrounded by water as well. Its not like SF is losing any potential real estate like you keep trying to claim. The land in use was always part of the plan. It didn't sink away into the ocean, genius!

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More than 50% of Bay Areas potential real estate is under water.
Really? We're planning on creating a second half of SF following the Atlantian model? News to me. How do you figure it would stop at 50%, oh knowledge master?

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Not only is sprawl ill-advised its entirely impossible in 50% of The Bay Area.
Really? 50% of the Bay Area? Why do you persist in speaking on things you know nothing about? Give me the 50% that can sprawl, and then list me the other 50% that cannot. Your posts are laughable. SF and San Mateo County (which land-wise is approximately 2/3 undeveloped) are the ONLY Bay Area counties (out of 9 counties mind you!) that are at all prevented from sprawl. You obviously know nothing about the other 7 counties, all of which have their areas that do sprawl. And even San Mateo County could have utilized huge, sparsely populated areas such as Half Moon Bay and its surrounding communities if it had chosen to do so, rather than remain largely rural. If only you'd had a clue before you'd spoken!

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Its Ok to toot your horn for having a landscape that necessitates density, its something entirely different by boasting that the density was by design. Compared to a metro like Philadephia the Bay Area has 1/4 of the buildable land when taking into account the Pacific Ocean, Bays and Mountain ranges.
What kind of tainted hash must you be smoking? Please seek out a new dealer, b/c whatever you're on now is forcing logic to evade you. How is it you only see geographical obstacles as room for expansion in the Bay Area, while you conveniently ignore the actual land that was utilized for both human habitation and wildlife preserves? Of course there were designations for both, genius! SF became as dense as it did AFTER it split from San Mateo County, which was originally part of its city limits. THIS WAS BY DESIGN!!!! You must love the taste of your own feet if you choose to put them in your mouth so often. And apparently to you its only okay to toot your own horn when its Philly doing such a thing.

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Lets try and keep it real here.
LMFAO!!! I cannot believe you of all people are proposing such a thing. That is the antithesis of what you habitually do here on C-D. I have yet to see you "keep it real" and give even ONE fair, objective comparison when the Bay Area is involved. You either lie or exaggerate, and not once have you even apologized or corrected yourself. Do you even grasp the definition of the term "real?"
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Charleston
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1.) NEW YORK CITY--obviously

2.) LA--again, obviously

3) WASHINGTON DC--so important politically it makes its way to #3. Also has singificant cultural and economic influence.

4) SAN FRANCISCO--love it or hate it, has been very important culturally (60's, San Francisco values, etc...) Also has a huge metro region including Berkeley, Oakland, Silicon Valley...

5) BOSTON--Historically, it is a foundation for our country. Very important in the public consciousness and has signficantg cultural and economic influence

Honorable mention: Chicago, Dallas
I agree with this.
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