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View Poll Results: Do you think NYC will still be the largest city in 2050?
Yes 628 81.56%
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Old 05-08-2009, 06:17 PM
 
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About 20 years ago in the area where my sister-in-law lives, a developer bought up several old single family homes in a row. He tore them down and put three 3 family homes. Look how many more people could live in those. The same thing happened in a few other neighborhoods.

Yes, outside of Manhattan, there is room for expansion.
Exactly, theres even room in Manhattan so there is definitely alot of space in the outer boros. The Mayor is redeveloping about 100 neighbor hoods across the city.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:21 PM
 
Location: New Mexico to Texas
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if Phoenix keeps growing at this rate can you imagine what it will look like 40 years from now, maybe it will be sprawled out to Flagstaff, j/k. but for real do you still think it will be attractive to alot of people? Will 110 degrees not be attractive anymore? Will people want to live so far out of the city that it takes forever just to drinve into it, think about how far it will sprawl out and how crowded it will be in the next couple decades to come.

I am not hating on PHX just being realistic, the same goes for Atlanta, what will these cities look like in lets say 25 years from now, more like a Chicago or a LA?
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:36 AM
 
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if Phoenix keeps growing at this rate can you imagine what it will look like 40 years from now, maybe it will be sprawled out to Flagstaff, j/k. but for real do you still think it will be attractive to alot of people? Will 110 degrees not be attractive anymore? Will people want to live so far out of the city that it takes forever just to drinve into it, think about how far it will sprawl out and how crowded it will be in the next couple decades to come.

I am not hating on PHX just being realistic, the same goes for Atlanta, what will these cities look like in lets say 25 years from now, more like a Chicago or a LA?

Developing cities don't look like Chicago or NYC anymore. L.A was the first big suburban styled city to hit it big. It was a model for the rest to come, but they just don't have the same draw as L.A did. I don't think L.A is as attractive to people as it once was. It's a real shock once you get to L.A. It's not really what you'd expect it to be.

I wouldn't be surprised if L.A, Houston, Pheonix, and Atlanta started seeing negative growth in around 2020. Water is going to become a HUGE problem with rising temperatures. I know someones going to say that they'll have something ready, but its going to be so expensive for just water alone so will it even be worth it anymore?
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Old 05-09-2009, 07:30 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I think NYC will have 10 million and Los Angeles 5 - 6 million
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Old 05-09-2009, 08:57 AM
 
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Developing cities don't look like Chicago or NYC anymore. L.A was the first big suburban styled city to hit it big. It was a model for the rest to come, but they just don't have the same draw as L.A did. I don't think L.A is as attractive to people as it once was. It's a real shock once you get to L.A. It's not really what you'd expect it to be.

I wouldn't be surprised if L.A, Houston, Pheonix, and Atlanta started seeing negative growth in around 2020. Water is going to become a HUGE problem with rising temperatures. I know someones going to say that they'll have something ready, but its going to be so expensive for just water alone so will it even be worth it anymore?


trust me, do a little research you'll find that desalination plants supply enough water to places like L.A., I'm sure if they had to they'd build more of them along the coast, which I might add is pretty big.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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Developing cities don't look like Chicago or NYC anymore. L.A was the first big suburban styled city to hit it big. It was a model for the rest to come, but they just don't have the same draw as L.A did. I don't think L.A is as attractive to people as it once was. It's a real shock once you get to L.A. It's not really what you'd expect it to be.

I wouldn't be surprised if L.A, Houston, Pheonix, and Atlanta started seeing negative growth in around 2020. Water is going to become a HUGE problem with rising temperatures. I know someones going to say that they'll have something ready, but its going to be so expensive for just water alone so will it even be worth it anymore?
It is in the country's best interest to have a California that has plenty of water. An overwhelming amount of California's water goes towards supporting 77,000 farms in California that produce OVER HALF of the fruit, vegetables, and nuts that the USA makes. Almonds, artichokes, figs, olives, persimmons, pomegranates, prunes, raisins, and walnuts are only produced in California. 80% of US strawberries are from California. 21% of the country's milk supply comes from California. 23% of cheese in this country is from California. Do you love butter: well 30% of it is made in California. And I am sure many of you drink wine. 90% of the USA's wine production is from California and 2/3 of USA wine purchases are for a California produced wine. Let California dry up and suddenly your wine prices go from $25 to $150. People tend to undervalue the importance of California's food production for this nation. Let this state dry up and there will be a serious food shortage in this nation. These are just a sampling of the types of crops California leads in. Again, more than HALF of fruit, vegetables, and nuts are from CA.

http://www.agclassroom.org/kids/stats/california.pdf
http://www.nal.usda.gov/pgdic/Strawb...s/ers.htm#more
2008 ICAR (http://www.2008icar.org/about_us_milk.asp - broken link)
http://www.wineinstitute.org/files/E...yer%202008.pdf
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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It is in the country's best interest to have a California that has plenty of water. An overwhelming amount of California's water goes towards supporting 77,000 farms in California that produce OVER HALF of the fruit, vegetables, and nuts that the USA makes. Almonds, artichokes, figs, olives, persimmons, pomegranates, prunes, raisins, and walnuts are only produced in California. 80% of US strawberries are from California. 21% of the country's milk supply comes from California. 23% of cheese in this country is from California. Do you love butter: well 30% of it is made in California. And I am sure many of you drink wine. 90% of the USA's wine production is from California and 2/3 of USA wine purchases are for a California produced wine. Let California dry up and suddenly your wine prices go from $25 to $150. People tend to undervalue the importance of California's food production for this nation. Let this state dry up and there will be a serious food shortage in this nation. These are just a sampling of the types of crops California leads in. Again, more than HALF of fruit, vegetables, and nuts are from CA.

http://www.agclassroom.org/kids/stats/california.pdf
The U.S. Strawberry Industry
2008 ICAR (http://www.2008icar.org/about_us_milk.asp - broken link)
http://www.wineinstitute.org/files/E...yer%202008.pdf



The only place I see haaving a water problem are more inland like new mexico and west texas.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Tri-Cities, TN
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Many people I know here in East TN grow their own grapes and make their own wine. I won't drink anything but good ole home grown TN grapes
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Old 05-09-2009, 03:46 PM
 
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Many people I know here in East TN grow their own grapes and make their own wine. I won't drink anything but good ole home grown TN grapes
Lol what did that have to do with anything.
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Old 05-09-2009, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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trust me, do a little research you'll find that desalination plants supply enough water to places like L.A., I'm sure if they had to they'd build more of them along the coast, which I might add is pretty big.
Current desalination technology involves turning oil into water. In other words, the energy requirements are HUGE, which is why desalination is pretty much the last option that cities turn to. Now maybe we'll have free/cheap solar energy in 30 years so it won't be a problem.
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