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This above quote shows you know nothing of the city. So much in fact that a non new yorker, who might not even live in this country would be able to tell you know nothing of nyc. And that your just happy to be here
I see you're an all-or-none sort of guy... so be it. I see life differently and I'd prefer to find some common ground even if we disagree on general principles. I have submitted complimentary comments about what I enjoy about NYC, which for some reason you're not ready to acknowledge. On the other hand, I haven't seen you concede the positive attributes of California... perhaps it's because you haven't spent a significant amount of time there or maybe you're just too stubborn to acknowledge that real life is replete with ambiguity, grey areas and compromise.
So please tell me, how many years have you spent living in California that give you a basis for making these comparisons?
Do I know everything there is to know about NYC? Of course not, I wouldn't even be so bold as to make that same claim about Cali... possessing such a massive amount of knowledge about a given state just isn't realistic. So in the end it all comes down to personal experience and preferences, which is what this stream is truly about; opinion.
However, if we look at our personal styles (our approach to dealing with people and issues), and then assume that we are representative of the people of our states, then what we can at least glean from this exchange is the types of people you'd be more likely encounter in our respective states. Inasmuch as I don't really know you, so I could be wrong, your responses demonstrate a didactic, defensive and angry approach to life and dealing with people... so are you representative of the average New Yorker? From my limited experience I'd argue that you are to a good extent. I find that many people in NYC tend to mirror your approach... arrogant, narcissistic, with a need to be right on every point. A more logical approach might be to acknowledge that there is more than one right answer to this debate... it's a matter of personal taste with plenty of good to go around in both NY and California.
In a nutshell, what I miss most about Cali is the people.
California as a state certainly offers more, but I think the generalizations about NYC are pretty far off the mark. There are good swaths of Brooklyn that I think are as fun and vibrant as the best neighborhoods found in SF or Los Angeles.
Queens isn't exactly exciting, but I wouldn't call it dull. The patchwork of ethnic neighborhoods easily accessible to and from each other could end up being a lot of fun for anyone who's interested in exploring other cultures--a rarity among native New Yorkers it seems, but great fun for transplants.
Anyhow, I think this is a fun comparison and it seems undoubtedly that California should come up on top in every metric. However, no one really lives in an entire state (unless it's Rhode Island perhaps), so even though I vote California, I think I'll stay in New York.
I see you're an all-or-none sort of guy... so be it. I see life differently and I'd prefer to find some common ground even if we disagree on general principles. I have submitted complimentary comments about what I enjoy about NYC, which for some reason you're not ready to acknowledge. On the other hand, I haven't seen you concede the positive attributes of California... perhaps it's because you haven't spent a significant amount of time there or maybe you're just too stubborn to acknowledge that real life is replete with ambiguity, grey areas and compromise.
So please tell me, how many years have you spent living in California that give you a basis for making these comparisons?
Do I know everything there is to know about NYC? Of course not, I wouldn't even be so bold as to make that same claim about Cali... possessing such a massive amount of knowledge about a given state just isn't realistic. So in the end it all comes down to personal experience and preferences, which is what this stream is truly about; opinion.
However, if we look at our personal styles (our approach to dealing with people and issues), and then assume that we are representative of the people of our states, then what we can at least glean from this exchange is the types of people you'd be more likely encounter in our respective states. Inasmuch as I don't really know you, so I could be wrong, your responses demonstrate a didactic, defensive and angry approach to life and dealing with people... so are you representative of the average New Yorker? From my limited experience I'd argue that you are to a good extent. I find that many people in NYC tend to mirror your approach... arrogant, narcissistic, with a need to be right on every point. A more logical approach might be to acknowledge that there is more than one right answer to this debate... it's a matter of personal taste with plenty of good to go around in both NY and California.
In a nutshell, what I miss most about Cali is the people.
California as a state is superior to new york state. No arguments there no disputes
I was just deeply offended by your accusations of nyc and long island. I dont need to visit california to know that its a superior state. Its common sense. Nyc is the greatest city (but thats not enough) and cali is the greatest state
new york cali cant even come close to even being on the same tier as anything with the name "new york" or anywhere within 1000 miles of it.
nyc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> la
buffalo >>>>>>>>>> sd
rochester >>>>>>>> san jose (lol who has heard of san jose? before cd, i havent)
yonkers >>>>>>>>> sf
albany >>>>>>> sacramento (lol, sacramento is a nice cowtown, but nothing in the way of history)
if you even add la, sd, san jose, sf, and oakland, sacramento, you still wont even come close to nyc by itself.
more diversity
better food
better weather (as in, we actually have snow)
more access to cooler things (yeah cali people, we arent isolated into our state..)
new york cali cant even come close to even being on the same tier as anything with the name "new york" or anywhere within 1000 miles of it.
nyc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> la
buffalo >>>>>>>>>> sd
rochester >>>>>>>> san jose (lol who has heard of san jose? before cd, i havent)
yonkers >>>>>>>>> sf
albany >>>>>>> sacramento (lol, sacramento is a nice cowtown, but nothing in the way of history)
if you even add la, sd, san jose, sf, and oakland, sacramento, you still wont even come close to nyc by itself.
more diversity
better food
better weather (as in, we actually have snow)
more access to cooler things (yeah cali people, we arent isolated into our state..)
Yea a city of 295,000 (Buffalo) that has lost more than 50% of its population really compares to a beachside city of 1.3 million.
Yonkers over SF? In what dimension?
Albany over Sacramento? Even if Sacramento was a cowtown, Albany is a large town of 100,000 that really isn't that urban itself. At least Sacramento has a downtown, however crappy it may be.
The weather is highly subjective. I hate snow and I like the warm California winters/summers.
I'm not sure how Albany is more accessible to cooler things. Perhaps to the Catskills? They aren't that cool. LA is just as close to several mountain ranges.
new york cali cant even come close to even being on the same tier as anything with the name "new york" or anywhere within 1000 miles of it.
nyc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> la
buffalo >>>>>>>>>> sd
rochester >>>>>>>> san jose (lol who has heard of san jose? before cd, i havent)
yonkers >>>>>>>>> sf
albany >>>>>>> sacramento (lol, sacramento is a nice cowtown, but nothing in the way of history)
Are you serious?
That dump Buffalo better than San Diego? Yonkers better than San Francisco???
Sometimes I don't know if you're serious or it's a joke with the endless California bashing. California is a great state and offers so much more than NYS. Of course, I don't think any region compares to the NYC metro, but please give credit where credit is due!
Yea a city of 295,000 (Buffalo) that has lost more than 50% of its population really compares to a beachside city of 1.3 million.
Yonkers over SF? In what dimension?
Albany over Sacramento? Even if Sacramento was a cowtown, Albany is a large town of 100,000 that really isn't that urban itself. At least Sacramento has a downtown, however crappy it may be.
The weather is highly subjective. I hate snow and I like the warm California winters/summers.
I'm not sure how Albany is more accessible to cooler things. Perhaps to the Catskills? They aren't that cool. LA is just as close to several mountain ranges.
I wouldn't go that far about Albany, which has been a city since 1664 and it is more dense than Sacramento. It is also close to the Adirondacks, the Berkshires of MA and the Green Mountains of VT. Boston and NYC are only 2 hours away, with Montreal being about 3 or so hours away. Saratoga Springs is in the same metro too.
I wouldn't go that far about Albany, which has been a city since 1664 and it is more dense than Sacramento. It is also close to the Adirondacks, the Berkshires of MA and the Green Mountains of VT. Boston and NYC are only 2 hours away, with Montreal being about 3 or so hours away. Saratoga Springs is in the same metro too.
Some of the other comparisons are odd though.
I dunno, I spent tons of time in Alboner and lived there briefly, I guess... I always felt like my energy was sucked out as soon as I stepped out of the car and walked around. I haven't been back since around '06, but the last time I was there, it hadn't really perked up much... there's the big mall and Lark Street, neither of which is particularly stimulating. It's in a decent position geographically, being between Boston and NYC and, as you mentioned, close enough to drive to Montreal in an afternoon. But the place is so sleepy it drove me nuts.
It's also home of the absolute worst burrito I've ever had in my life. Ever. I feel like this should be pointed out.
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I see life differently and I'd prefer to find some common ground even if we disagree on general principles. I have submitted complimentary comments about what I enjoy about NYC, which for some reason you're not ready to acknowledge. On the other hand, I haven't seen you concede the positive attributes of California... perhaps it's because you haven't spent a significant amount of time there or maybe you're just too stubborn to acknowledge that real life is replete with ambiguity, grey areas and compromise. 
cali cant even come close to even being on the same tier as anything with the name "new york" or anywhere within 1000 miles of it. 
