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View Poll Results: Southern California or North Jersey
Southern California 115 65.71%
North Jersey 60 34.29%
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Denver Colorado
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I don't like either. I'll take NJ then immediately move to Manhattan. I like New York City. Santa Barbara is a very boring old-people place and Orange County is just a classless piece of ****. There are a few places on the Westside of LA I like though and wouldn't mind living in for a bit.

No broad brushed generalizations or raw ignorance in this post skippy
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Architectural charm in Southern Cal? Really? Everywhere I have been in Southern Cal I see cookie cutter architecture. Meanwhile, North NJ has some of the most amazing, diverse, and historic architecture in this country - and it pans across suburban mansions, urban brownstones, and rural cottages and farmhouses.

It always shocks me how little people actually know about NJ.
It always shocks me how little people actually know about SoCal.
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:28 PM
 
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I don't like either. I'll take NJ then immediately move to Manhattan. I like New York City. Santa Barbara is a very boring old-people place and Orange County is just a classless piece of ****. There are a few places on the Westside of LA I like though and wouldn't mind living in for a bit.
Uh oh 4-SV, I fear the worst! There may be something seriously wrong with you! You just said something positive about somewhere. You might wanna get that checked out.

Next thing you know you might even take a break from trolling!
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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I cannot think of any signature foods that SoCal is well known for. Are there any?

NJ is know for it's pizza, Italian hot dogs, taylor ham (w/ egg and cheese), saltwater taffy...among others.

The pizza I had in San Diego gave me nightmares for 2 weeks.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:01 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I cannot think of any signature foods that SoCal is well known for. Are there any?

NJ is know for it's pizza, Italian hot dogs, taylor ham (w/ egg and cheese), saltwater taffy...among others.

The pizza I had in San Diego gave me nightmares for 2 weeks.
Fish Tacos, Carne Asada Burritos....basically Mexican themed stuff. But it's not associated with the region as much as say pizza, bagels, hot dogs are with NYC and Chicago or Cheesestakes with Philly.

I wouldn't say NJ is known for its hot dogs or pizza though, that would be New York more so. Maybe in the NE it is but at least here out west NJ is not known for any particular food.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Fish Tacos, Carne Asada Burritos....basically Mexican themed stuff. But it's not associated with the region as much as say pizza, bagels, hot dogs are with NYC and Chicago or Cheesestakes with Philly.

I wouldn't say NJ is known for its hot dogs or pizza though, that would be New York more so. Maybe in the NE it is but at least here out west NJ is not known for any particular food.
Imagine there being a little island off the coast of California with 8 Million people living on it. To the people outside of the SoCal region, that little, populous island would be more well known for fish tacos and carne asada burritos than mainland California, because it's the city and the center of everything.

That's why you may recognize NYC as the epicenter for such things as pizza, and bagels. Although NJ is every bit as responsible for the development of both foods as we know them today, and NJ's pizza and bagels are every bit as good as NY's as a whole. My favorite pizzeria is in NJ. In both NJ and NY you can, however, find very average pizzerias ... but an average pizza in NJ/NY is an amazing pizza in california!

But it is NJ that invented Taylor Ham, and NJ invented saltwater taffy. NY cannot take credit in either of those (not that I actually eat saltwater taffy, LOL).

Oh - I didn't say "hot dogs", I said "Italian hot dogs" ... and NJ invented the Italian hot dog. It's a dog, with potatoes, peppers, and onions, in a pizza dough roll.

Don't forget in terms of produce, the world-famous Jersey tomatoes and Jersey blueberries. The cranberry bogs are something to behold.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:21 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Imagine there being a little island off the coast of California with 8 Million people living on it. To the people outside of the SoCal region, that little, populous island would be more well known for fish tacos and carne asada burritos than mainland California, because it's the city and the center of everything.

That's why you may recognize NYC as the epicenter for such things as pizza, and bagels. Although NJ is every bit as responsible for the development of both foods as we know them today, and NJ's pizza and bagels are every bit as good as NY's as a whole. My favorite pizzeria is in NJ. In both NJ and NY you can, however, find very average pizzerias ... but an average pizza in NJ/NY is an amazing pizza in california!

But it is NJ that invented Taylor Ham, and NJ invented saltwater taffy. NY cannot take credit in either of those (not that I actually eat saltwater taffy, LOL).

Oh - I didn't say "hot dogs", I said "Italian hot dogs" ... and NJ invented the Italian hot dog. It's a dog, with potatoes, peppers, and onions, in a pizza dough roll.

Don't forget in terms of produce, the world-famous Jersey tomatoes and Jersey blueberries. The cranberry bogs are something to behold.
I've never even heard of Taylor Ham and not sure of anyone who eats or has ever mentioned salt water taffy. I'm sure NJ is home to many great foods and such but it's just not well known for it outside of that region, at least from my experiance. Just as I'm sure many people outside of Southern CA do not think about the Fish tacos or carne asada that are popular here.

I just got back from NY on Sunday and I'm sorry but I did not see what the big deal was about pizza or the bagels. Granted I only ate at a few pizzerias while I was there, several in Manhattan and one in Hoboken called Hoboken Pizza right by the waterfront and train station. I'm sure there are some better pizzerias in other parts of NYC, Brooklyn I heard has good ones, and NJ but at least the few I tried did not taste any better than what I find here. But I'm not a big fan of pizza anyways, it's usually not my first choice for food.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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I just got back from NY on Sunday and I'm sorry but I did not see what the big deal was about pizza or the bagels. Granted I only ate at a few pizzerias while I was there, several in Manhattan and one in Hoboken called Hoboken Pizza right by the waterfront and train station. I'm sure there are some better pizzerias in other parts of NYC, Brooklyn I heard has good ones, and NJ but at least the few I tried did not taste any better than what I find here. But I'm not a big fan of pizza anyways, it's usually not my first choice for food.
i'm........speechless
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Like I said, there are a lot of average pizzerias, especially in Manhattan. Brooklyn and NJ is where a lot of the best, older, more authentic ones are. But even the average pizza here are better than "the best" pizza I had in san Diego (I was directed there by locals...it was sooo bad).

It's also probably something that people in the Northeast are accustomed to, so we are more critical of pizza elsewhere. We know what makes a good pizza, and how to rate a pizza ... crust crispiness, freshness of mozzerella, and the sauce/cheese ratio. Just like if I had the tacos you mentioned, I probably wouldn't be blown away by the ones from your region, because I didn't grow up eating them, and the ones we have in NJ/NY are serviceable.

You never heard of Taylor Ham because you literally cannot get it outside of NJ. Maybe on the outskirts (NY state. PA). It is a true, regional food, something that many places cannot claim. On a bagel with egg and cheese is a dynamite breakfast:

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Old 08-12-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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sav - i hope you didn't get pizza from Famous Rays....

and, its too bad you're not a pizza fan. an hour and some north on 95 is New Haven, and you couldn't find bad/avg pizza there if you tried
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