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Chicago's advantage is that it is an incredibly affordable large city in the US. It is a real dense city with a large vibrant and walkable downtown, superb public transit, yet much much cheaper to live than New York, Boston etc.
Chicago would be perfect if it were warmer in the winter and there were less crime. New York is too crowded and stressful for many people's taste, not to mention a middle income person can't own a house anywhere close to it.
Chicago's advantage is that it is an incredibly affordable large city in the US. It is a real dense city with a large vibrant and walkable downtown, superb public transit, yet much much cheaper to live than New York, Boston etc.
Chicago would be perfect if it were warmer in the winter and there were less crime. New York is too crowded and stressful for many people's taste, not to mention a middle income person can't own a house anywhere close to it.
Chicago could also mitigate the problem with winters by installing better insulation for people waiting on the elevated platforms as well as expanding and improving the series of underground tunnels they have in the loop (sort of like what Montreal and Toronto have with their underground cities).
Chicago could also mitigate the problem with winters by installing better insulation for people waiting on the elevated platforms as well as expanding and improving the series of underground tunnels they have in the loop (sort of like what Montreal and Toronto have with their underground cities).
Nah. That would give homeless people some place to warm up. Better to just give them bus tickets to San Francisco or some place.
Chicago could also mitigate the problem with winters by installing better insulation for people waiting on the elevated platforms as well as expanding and improving the series of underground tunnels they have in the loop (sort of like what Montreal and Toronto have with their underground cities).
"Insulation?" For an outdoor platform?
Here in the winter-prone part of the country, we call that a "coat." We're generally expected to supply our own.
What are you comparing here? Some boring bar with big sctreen TVs and fat obnoxious chicks in Cubs jerseys to South Beach clubs full of beatiful people from around the world?
What's interesting in bars? Who cares about bars? Fat people drinking beer and getting fatter on awful bar food? There are plenty of bars in every podunk in America. Boring.
The world comes to play in Miami not Chicago. There is a reason for it.
What's up with that baiting topic? Do most people think Chicago is better? I think we all know this is not true. Do some people think that? Of course. Some people prefer Scranton PA over any city in the world and that's ok, too: everybody is entitled to an opinion.
I don't necessarily agree with a lot of the posters boosting Chicago so much. However with all due respect, you must realize that your corner bar with Miller Lite and Old Style on tap and sports playing on the tv is not the be all end all of bar culture, especially in a place like Chicago that offers a humongous variety of not just bars, but also TYPES of bars. The places below are bars with inventive cocktails and great, atypical bar food. There are lots of places in Chicago like this.
And many more. If you want clubs, LA, Miami, etc are better cities for that. That's great for youngsters in their twenties. However, many older folks still like to go out to get drinks, but don't want an experience of standing in line, paying cover, not being able to sit and talk, and bartenders making crappy run of the mill drinks.
Here in the winter-prone part of the country, we call that a "coat." We're generally expected to supply our own.
Yes, the way that cities in other parts of the world sometimes build a nice insulated shelter on its platforms even if they are outdoors and elevated (which is what you get automatically if you have subway stations). It's been implemented for outdoor stations around the world (including parts of the US such as some commuter rail platforms in NYC) so it's not that crazy of an idea and generally a pretty minor investment and greatly appreciated if the weather in the city isn't the nicest all year round.
If you're really that bad off, you can stand under one of the heat lamps or stand in one of the shelters or stay in the station until the train is approaching.
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Chicago and New York are like two people with different personalities (not so much the size just a different unique style of character) so the preferences of who is better are pretty subjective (especially by local and regional bias). Some Chicagoans and New Yorkers think their city is greatest and would never leave it for any other place. Just like the old tiring argument between which Chicago's Maxwell and NY's Nathan style hotdog is better or who had the first skyscraper bla bla bla. That could go round and round but who cares as the locals in both cities are probably too busy with their day to day lives not giving the other city in the opposite direction much thought anyway. It would be one thing if both cities were across the river from each other linked by bridges and tunnels sharing the same region but they are not.
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If specific things that are "cool", "unique", or "endearing" could be used as reasons why someone would prefer Chicago over New York City, then having the most drawable bridges in the world could be seen as a tally mark in Chicago's favor:
Not to mention the fact that "downtown" Chicago is separated by water on (essentially) 3 sides by river and lake. River North, Gold Coast, Streeterville to the north of the river. The Loop, South loop, Printers Row to the south of the river. Both accessible to each other via vehicle (street, drive, expressway), bus, train (above ground, at grade and subway), water, bike, or good old fashioned sidewalk.
*IF* it was still around it could have offered a way for various people with certain security proclivities to access downtown within 5 minutes of an airfield. Could it handle 747s? No. But any private plane could have used it (I'm not sure what the maximum size for planes were at Meigs Field though).
Yes, the way that cities in other parts of the world sometimes build a nice insulated shelter on its platforms even if they are outdoors and elevated (which is what you get automatically if you have subway stations). It's been implemented for outdoor stations around the world (including parts of the US such as some commuter rail platforms in NYC) so it's not that crazy of an idea and generally a pretty minor investment and greatly appreciated if the weather in the city isn't the nicest all year round.
Another NYC's advantage over Chicago: subways stations are much more comfortable in the winter than L stations and Subway service is less likely to be affected by inclement weather then the L.
BTW. It's funny to see OY's goodhearted comments on what can be done to improve the L services were met by outright hostility of the natives reminding him that he just needs to supply his coat. That's the Chicago solution to most problems: you are the problem
For a moment I felt like I am back in Chicago...
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If specific things that are "cool", "unique", or "endearing" could be used as reasons why someone would prefer Chicago over New York City, then having the most drawable bridges in the world could be seen as a tally mark in Chicago's favor:
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