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Yes but why surrender your city's heart to them and force the affluent to flee to suburbia? SF actually offers more for both demographics.
...and this is the logic the continues to make San Francisco unaffordable and pricing out people of lesser means. In fact, SF is LAST in housing affordability in SustainLane's ranking of 50 cities. You can argue that's because SF is so desirable, yet the fact of the matter is that when housing become so unaffordable that newcomers/recent graduates can't afford it, you're going to start to push away that edgy/artsy/creative/innovative crowd. People aren't millionaires right out of college, and SF is by no means a "break into" market.
Wealth stratification is NOT a good thing. It's no question that Philadelphia offers much more of a balance of social classes than SF. The fact that Philadelphia is so much farther ahead than SF in terms of housing affordability will continue to play to its favor; it has ENORMOUS value.
Many of the wealthiest neighborhoods in any metro area are usually located in the heart of the city. San Francisco: Nob Hill, Boston: Beacon Hill, Back Bay; New York City: Greenwich Village, Chelsea; DC: Georgetown. Maybe some of the Philly members can help me out with some of the wealthy inner-city neighborhoods?
Rittenhouse Square, Society Hill and Washington Square are the most notable. Although, as I noted earlier, you find a really nice mix of social classes overall in DT Philadelphia. I'm not entirely sure why 18Montclair makes that out to be a negative attribute -- especially considering SF always poses to be a very politically progressive place.
...and this is the logic the continues to make San Francisco unaffordable and pricing out people of lesser means. In fact, SF is LAST in housing affordability in SustainLane's ranking of 50 cities. You can argue that's because SF is so desirable, yet the fact of the matter is that when housing become so unaffordable that newcomers/recent graduates can't afford it, you're going to start to push away that edgy/artsy/creative/innovative crowd. People aren't millionaires right out of college, and SF is by no means a "break into" market.
Wealth stratification is NOT a good thing. It's no question that Philadelphia offers much more of a balance of social classes than SF. The fact that Philadelphia is so much farther ahead than SF in terms of housing affordability will continue to play to its favor; it has ENORMOUS value.
Rittenhouse Square, Society Hill and Washington Square are the most notable. Although, as I noted earlier, you find a really nice mix of social classes overall in DT Philadelphia. I'm not entirely sure why 18Montclair makes that out to be a negative attribute -- especially considering SF always poses to be a very politically progressive place.
Well, Im hugely pro-business and very pro-development.
Are there really any solidly middle class areas of Downtown Philadelphia?
If there are solidly middle class areas that are safe and NOT super expensive in DT Philadelphia, then Im impressed.
well, although QV is good balance of middle class w/some upper middle. it has a seedy section with section 8 housing (not saying all section 8 is seedy, but this particular area is). so, it varies street by street. although, 75% of it is safe, there is a danger element. i wouldn't stroll around alone late night.
well, although qv is good balance of middle class w/some upper middle. It has a seedy section with section 8 housing (not saying all section 8 is seedy, but this particular area is). So, it varies street by street. Although, 80% of it is safe, there is a danger element. I wouldn't stroll around alone late night.
sorry, queen village - its the neighborhood just south of south street. it has some really nice homes, but the further south you go, the sketchier it gets. its the transition area between center city & south philly.
sorry, queen village - its the neighborhood just south of south street. it has some really nice homes, but the further south you go, the sketchier it gets.
Okay, Queens Village
I am a really BIG fan of nice big city neighorhoods-especially close to downtown. Im even more a fan if they are middle class.
Developers(who are only looking out for their bottom line) seem to shut out families, more specifically middle class families, from the latest wave of highrise condo development that has swept the entire nation.
I loved that so many downtowns were reborn in the process, but I wish the focus were on entire families moving downtown and not just hipsters, yuppies and rich empty nesters.
Tons of 3-4 bd condos in the $200K range would have been awesome. But obviously never going to happen.
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