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Dallas 124 48.82%
Atlanta 130 51.18%
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I agree with this alot. Atlanta's media and advertisement is PROPOGANDA to the T! Atlanta's media and hype always get blacks to come here thinking that they will do well. Like I said in another previous post in another thread, blacks are the people that are more unhappy than any other race in Atlanta.
Are you for real with this garbage?

You act as if there is some sort of City-sponsered cohesive effort behind all of this so-called propaganda.

Most people - black or otherwise - are not sheep.

And as far as "blacks are the people that are more unhappy than any other race in Atlanta," I assume you are speaking for yourself here?

Otherwise, back this ridiculous claim up with facts.

 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Where did you get that from? DFW didnt lose 50,000 Black residents in that time frame.

Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX Metro Area - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2008

According to this DFW's Non-Hispanic African-American population was:

In 2006: 834,847
In 2007: 854,083
In 2008: 869,870

If you want to look at all African-Americans including the hispanic ones:

In 2006: 846,859
In 2007: 866,372
In 2008: 876,173

Not sure where you came up with the 50,000 loss. They have gained about 35,000 new black residents in that time frame.
This says otherwise:

African American Population Demographics

http://www.dallaschamber.org/files/D...cProfile_4.pdf
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:19 AM
 
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Are you for real with this garbage?

You act as if there is some sort of City-sponsered cohesive effort behind all of this so-called propaganda.

Most people - black or otherwise - are not sheep.

And as far as "blacks are the people that are more unhappy than any other race in Atlanta," I assume you are speaking for yourself here?

Otherwise, back this ridiculous claim up with facts.
That particular poster is notorious for trolling the Atlanta boards with this sort of stuff. It's just best to ignore them.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Ill take the official census data over anything else. Any other source can say what they want to or measure it however they want to, but the census is the only official one designated by the government.

Either way are we going to quibble about a difference of 23,000 people? In a metro area the size of DFW, thats chicken s**t. It still shows the black population around the same size. Only the census data shows a rate of growth (about 15,000 new black residents per year).

The result is the same. DFW's African-American population as of 2008 is somewhere between 875,000 and 900,000.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Ill take the official census data over anything else. Any other source can say what they want to or measure it however they want to, but the census is the only official one.

Either way are we going to quibble about a difference of 23,000 people? In a metro area the size of DFW, thats chicken s**t. It still shows the black population around the same size. Only the census data shows a rate of growth (about 15,000 new black residents per year).
Well this is city data; the littlest things are the must fun to quibble over.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:27 AM
 
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These are US Census estimates. The links LANative provided were ACS estimates. But these are not official figures, with different methodologies to count the people. There is an almost 24,000 difference between the figures.

All of this is arguing about nothing. The official 2010 census numbers may be somewhat different from what was presented in those charts. While I don't think DFW's black population is shrinking, it isn't booming the way Atlanta's and possibly Houston's are.

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Old 12-16-2009, 09:29 AM
 
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I live in Atlanta and my "black" experience has been quite the opposite. The same is true for the great majority of people I know. Then again, I didn't move based on BET's Frankie and Neffie and Keshia Cole, nor did any of my friends. That kind of says a mouthful on its own.

It has been everything it was hyped to be. Those who are unhappy, I FIND, did not have the background, tools set, network, ambition and drive to make Atlanta happen for them. Atlanta does not put success in your lap, Atlanta does not find a job for you, Atlanta won't make you go to networking jazz sessions at the High Museum instead of (or in addition to) choosing to party at Velvet Room. Atlanta won't stop you from trying to buy a $200K house and "the Benz" on a mid-level salary because you want to "look the part" before it's time.

When you have the combination and concentration of black upper/upper-middle class establishment that is willing to reach back to the next generation, the largest number of black college alumni in the world, the largest alumni chapters of NPHC fraternities and sororities, solid and long-existing churches and communities, historic districts (MLK), libraries and african-american oriented museums, business owners, urban arts festivals, one of the top two counties in the NATION for black money/wealth, the largest a-a university consortium in the nation, (and when I arrived) the ability to see other people of color as Fire Chief, School Superintendent, Mayor, etc., you might have something of a mecca. It's definitely not a scene found in Every City, USA.

It's different if you come to Atlanta and bring something, instead of expecting something. The "black mecca" thing is not going to mean YOU'RE going to make it, but it's certainly more than hype.

Excellent post. +1.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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All of this is arguing about nothing. The official 2010 census numbers may be somewhat different from what was presented in those charts. While I don't think DFW's black population is shrinking, it isn't booming the way Atlanta and possibly Houston are.
The segment of DFW's population that is booming beyond belief are the hispanics. They represent 80% of DFW's growth.

In a way, DFW could be seen one day as a Hispanic Mecca if its not already a small one.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:37 AM
 
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The segment of DFW's population that is booming beyond belief are the hispanics. They represent 80% of DFW's growth.

In a way, DFW could be seen one day as a Hispanic Mecca if its not already a small one.
Where isnt the hispanic population growing? No suprise...Houston has a larger hispanic population than Dallas does.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:38 AM
 
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The segment of DFW's population that is booming beyond belief are the hispanics. They represent 80% of DFW's growth.

In a way, DFW could be seen one day as a Hispanic Mecca if its not already a small one.
*nods*

Hispanic Magazine (http://www.hispaniconline.com/HispanicMag/2008_08/Feature-Cities.html - broken link)

DALLAS
"Business and pleasure mix well in this larger than life city, where more than 43 percent of the population is Hispanic. Home to entrepreneurs and big business barons, Dallas has made it a mission to see economic development progress. It’s the hub of some major international operations that employ thousands of Dallasites. It has done this all the while keeping the cost of living at below the national average and maintaining the affordability of homes..."



FWIW, Black Enterprise usually has Dallas in their top 10 as well:

http://www.blackenterprise.com/magaz...ericans-2007/4

Dallas

"Wilson moved to Dallas in 2000 after receiving a job offer from Frito-Lay North America, where she currently serves as regional vice president of finance. "Employment opportunities are phenomenal. Dallas has a diverse base of corporations, from a manufacturing standpoint as well as the service industry," she says.
Dallas has realized job growth of 2.3% in recent years. And this city of the 10-gallon hat has 27,514 black-owned businesses...Overall, Dallas received a lot of praise from survey respondents. One of its greatest attributes is its low cost of living, which is 8.2 percentage points below the national average..."

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