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View Poll Results: Best City?
Philadelphia 102 46.58%
Boston 117 53.42%
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Gimme a break! New York has far more racial incidents marring it's history than Boston could ever possibly approach. That's all you have been hearing about for the last forty years. Murders and assaults based on race. Yet New York is somehow able to brush off the moniker of a city with a racial undertone.
The reason is that Boston is not supposed to have racial strife. It is where the abolition movement began and it is the birthplace of modern liberalism.

BTW the article states that "with a 50% population of people of color, they have never elected a black mayor". Boston has never had a black population over 25%. I wonder what other lies are in the article.

And before you post inflammatory photos you really should do your homework on the photo you post. The person with the flag (Joe Rakes) was seventeen at the time and he was swinging the flag pole around, he wasn't attempting to spear the black man. The black man is Ted Landsmark, who still lives in the racial hellhole that is Boston.
It's not just about racial incidents and racial undertones. Boston has an entire culture that makes many minorities feel unwelcome. That's why so many accounting, investment, and law firms there have a hard time attracting/retaining minorities. Given the first opportunity, they run to cities like New York, DC, Chicago, and even Philadelphia.

"People of color" includes more than just black people. NYC is also only 25% black, but yet the city has had a black mayor. Baltimore is 65% black and that city has had a white mayor in recent years. The true strength of a democracy is how well minority rights are protected/represented, and in Boston, minority representation in government and the public sector is abysmal.

http://civilrightsproject.ucla.edu/research/metro-and-regional-inequalities/metro-boston-equity-initiative-1/we-don2019t-feel-welcome-here-african-americans-and-hispanics-in-metro-boston

http://www.boston.com/jobs/news/articles/2010/12/05/shedding_bostons_image_as_an_unwelcoming_place/
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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She was being sexist for voting her because she was a woman.
Well that's another debate altogether.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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It's not just about racial incidents and racial undertones. Boston has an entire culture that makes many minorities feel unwelcome.
And the Irish who came to Boston felt the same way. In fact it was probably a lot worse for Irish in 19th century Boston than it has ever been for blacks in this city.

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That's why so many accounting, investment, and law firms there have a hard time attracting/retaining minorities. Given the first opportunity, they run to cities like New York, DC, Chicago, and even Philadelphia.
Cite reference please.

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"People of color" includes more than just black people. NYC is also only 25% black, but yet the city has had a black mayor.
Wow one single one term black mayor, that's very impressive! Has New York State ever had a black governor? A re-elected black governor to boot!!! Massachusetts does.
BTW New York has a Hispanic population of >25% along with its >25% population of blacks. So, even with it's "minority" population dwarfing that of it's white population, NYC has still only has had one single one-term minority mayor. Now that's abyssmal!!!

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Baltimore is 65% black and that city has had a white mayor in recent years. The true strength of a democracy is how well minority rights are protected/represented, and in Boston, minority representation in government and the public sector is abysmal.
I worked in the City of Boston Public Works Dept and I assure you minorities are absolutely well represented in the public sector of this city.

Boston is 25% black but the state itself is about 7% black. That means on any given day the vast majority of people you see are not going to be black. This is unusual for a city in modern America therefore the assumption is that Boston is unwelcoming to blacks. And if I were to go to a city that was 85% black I might feel the same. The difference being that I would know that it wasn't true.
I also wouldn't blame racism for my failures.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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And the Irish who came to Boston felt the same way. In fact it was probably a lot worse for Irish in 19th century Boston than it has ever been for blacks in this city.
Anyway...

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Cite reference please.
Aside from my own personal observations as a student in Boston, and those of my classmates, here are a couple. I don't think one black student stayed in Boston after graduation. For the most part, DC was the top destination, followed by NYC.

Not a destination point | Boston Business Journal

A step back for diversity - The Boston Globe

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Wow one single one term black mayor, that's very impressive! Has New York State ever had a black governor? A re-elected black governor to boot!!! Massachusetts does.
BTW New York has a Hispanic population of >25% along with its >25% population of blacks. So, even with it's "minority" population dwarfing that of it's white population, NYC has still only has had one single one-term minority mayor. Now that's abyssmal!!!
The fact that New York City has had a black mayor is impressive considering that only a quarter of the population is black. Both New York and Philadelphia have had a Jewish, Italian, and Black mayor in the last twenty years. Too bad the same is not true of Boston. Thomas Menino is the only non-Irish mayor Boston has had since 1930!


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I worked in the City of Boston Public Works Dept and I assure you minorities are absolutely well represented in the public sector of this city.
Somebody has to clean the urinals.

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Boston is 25% black but the state itself is about 7% black. That means on any given day the vast majority of people you see are not going to be black. This is unusual for a city in modern America therefore the assumption is that Boston is unwelcoming to blacks. And if I were to go to a city that was 85% black I might feel the same. The difference being that I would know that it wasn't true. I also wouldn't blame racism for my failures.
One-quarter? You think that's unusual? Anyways, the difference between you living in Washington, DC and a black person living in Boston is that you always have the lily white suburbs of DC at your disposal. DC may be majority black, but the metro area is far from it. Boston has only a few pockets (Roxbury, JP, Dorchester, Mattapan) where blacks feel comfortable. Outside of these few areas, Boston feels very hostile and unwelcoming to many minorities.

And who's blaming racism? Or who's even claiming failure? Boston's simply a place that's not receptive to blacks, and therefore, we avoid it or leave. When you're not appreciated somewhere, there's no point in staying. Why would I, or anyone else, commit career suicide by going to Boston when there is a network of minority professionals in cities like DC, NYC, and Chicago that can help me succeed?
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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One-quarter? You think that's unusual? Anyways, the difference between you living in Washington, DC and a black person living in Boston is that you always have the lily white suburbs of DC at your disposal. DC may be majority black, but the metro area is far from it. Boston has only a few pockets (Roxbury, JP, Dorchester, Mattapan) where blacks feel comfortable. Outside of these few areas, Boston feels very hostile and unwelcoming to many minorities.
Ahh I see where you are coming from now. No one uses the term "lily white" who doesn't have some sort of racial axe to grind.

Thanks for slipping up and showing me the glasses you look through to see the world.
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Boston is racist, why are there even black people up there?
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:43 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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A bit tangential to what's been going on, but I'll say that Philadelphia is fairly rapidly getting a big increase in foreign-born populations. It's likely Philly is in for some pretty awesome food.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:51 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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I voted for Boston a while back, but after a couple visits to Philly since then- I prefer Philly.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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Philly.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:16 AM
 
Location: a bar
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Philly.
You'd think you would have more to say considering you bumped a 4 year old thread.
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