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Well, if you think some ranking of universities is subjective, it could be said that the one you proffered is also subjective. For Philadelphia, it does not include Thomas Jefferson University, which is a major medical campus in the heart of the city, and which does extensive research and gets more than $80 million in research grant funding from the NIH. Compared to Penn's NIH grants upwards of $500 million annually it is small but in big picture it is not chump change either...and of course, Penn's medical school ranks in the top 3 for NIH funding year in and year out, most years behind only Johns Hopkins in Baltimore.
So Philly, within the city, has Penn, Drexel, Temple, and Jeff. This doesn't even include other nationally renowned specialty med schools like the University of the Sciences and its College of Pharmacy, nation's oldest pharmacy school, or the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine, one of the oldest and largest med schools for that specialty.
Philly also is the home of the Curtis Institute of Music, the hardest school to get into by far, with acceptance rates lower than Harvard's.
And the city is also home to the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts, the oldest arts school the country and one of the best.
And there are two school branches of the Phila Museum of Art that are still in existence, one of which is the University of the Arts and the other is the Philadelphia University, with its focus on fashion design.
All these are top notch schools and we're not even talking about all the other options within the city as well as just outside. The one town that gives Boston the chase when it comes to higher ed, it's Philadelphia.
Well I gave the Carnegie Foundation as a source because they are the governing body that allows schools to have that research status.Such as an Accreditation Board.Its not a ranking but a designation.I see Atlanta and Philly as equals.One does not overshadow the other.I can see arguments made for both to be higher than the other.In other words,I do not see there being a clear winner.Philly usually wins based on history.Atlanta due to the fact that it is in the South does not get recognized as it should.
Those are only 3 schools in each city.What about Morehouse,Oglethorpe University,The ITC(International Theological Seminary,Spelman,SCAD,Mercer,Morehouse School of Medicne(Separate charter than Morehouse, separate institutions).
So actually the argument could be that Philly while having a larger overall populace with about 1.5 million people to Atlanta with under 550,000 people has less per capita than Atlanta which numerically speaking appears to have more institutions per capita.
Another example;Philly numerically speaking has more African Americanpopulation but Atlanta has more percentage wise by a slight margin.However gets call "The Black Mecca".Its crazy,but that is the parallel I see.
Actually Atlanta has both, their are more AA in Metro Atlanta than chicagoland but please don't bring the black meeca nickname thing up.
When we showed you that your own links show that Philly has larger student population, then you argue about comparing on a per capita basis.
If you argue per capita, there are many college towns acorss America that would win out. College Station, Texas has only about 60,000 population, but Texas A&M University in College Station is home to about 50,000 students. Yay...College Station is suddenly the capital of higher ed in America!
Now you're starting to list bible colleges?!
Not to mention on the metro per capita Philly would still have the edge - I am not trying to diminish Atlanta - but in agreeing with TMAC and a^ I think Atlanta has fantastic options and a major player just not quite among the top 5 - maybe 6 or 7
Personally I would put Boston, Philly, Chicago, SF, LA, and DC ahead
Well I gave the Carnegie Foundation as a source because they are the governing body that allows schools to have that research status.Such as an Accreditation Board.Its not a ranking but a designation.I see Atlanta and Philly as equals.One does not overshadow the other.I can see arguments made for both to be higher than the other.In other words,I do not see there being a clear winner.Philly usually wins based on history.Atlanta due to the fact that it is in the South does not get recognized as it should.
How does Atlanta get equal footing if by most metrics, it's behind? Atlanta's great and improving quickly, but Philly is still huge.
Not to mention on the metro per capita Philly would still have the edge - I am not trying to diminish Atlanta - but in agreeing with TMAC and a^ I think Atlanta has fantastic options and a major player just not quite among the top 5 - maybe 6 or 7
Personally I would put Boston, Philly, Chicago, SF, LA, and DC ahead
So actually the argument could be that Philly while having a larger overall populace with about 1.5 million people to Atlanta with under 550,000 people has less per capita than Atlanta which numerically speaking appears to have more institutions per capita.
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And under this argument Atlanta hands down excels past Boston - BU is the only major within the city - MIT and Harvard are in Cambridge
Sorry TMAC - Cambridge not Boston is the most important city for education
This is getting to the point of lunacy - But I agree Midtown Atlanta is now my favorite per capita college city - there I can sleep like an Olympian
And under this argument Atlanta hands down excels past Boston - BU is the only major within the city - MIT and Harvard are in Cambridge
Sorry TMAC - Cambridge not Boston is the most important city for education
This is getting to the point of lunacy - But I agree Midtown Atlanta is now my favorite per capita college city - there I can sleep like an Olympian
Actually Harvard is 50% Boston, 50% Cambridge
Harvard has a huge amount of land in Boston, directly across the river from their main campus in Cambridge. Also, the medical school is located in Longwood Medical Area, the world capital for medical research.
Let's just say that Boston is pretty much untouchable when it comes to higher ed.
1) Boston
2) Philadelphia-NYC-middle Jersey, SF, LA
3) Chicago
4) D.C.
Not sure who else after that, but Atlanta is definitely up there.
Let's just put it this way: Atlanta is WAY WAY FAR ahead of its sunbelt counterparts of Dallas and Phoenix (and Miami?) and also far head of Houston even though Houston is home to Rice and UH as well as the biggest medical center in the world with not just hospitals but many teaching institutions there.
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