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Actually, if you read the post containing that link above, you'll see that the unemployment rate for college grads is indeed lower than for high school dropouts.
A higher number of unemployed doesn't imply a higher unemployment rate unless the population sizes are the same.
Lol, that person clearly didn't get a college education.
Thank you for telling me something I found out 6 years ago.
Actually, if you click on a link someone posted several posts above, you'll see there are more college graduates unemployed compared to high school dropouts.
then you are not looking at the big picture. It shows that the unemployment rate for college graduates is lower than the rate for high school dropouts.
then you are not looking at the big picture. It shows that the unemployment rate for college graduates is lower than the rate for high school dropouts.
Your link provides a better picture of the unemployment rate between college grads verses high school dropouts.
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Actually, if you read the post containing that link above, you'll see that the unemployment rate for college grads is indeed lower than for high school dropouts.
"There are currently a record number of unemployed college graduates seeking work. So many, in fact, that they outnumber high school dropouts on the job hunt."
That was taken from the first paragraph from the report CNN did.
Thank you for telling me something I found out 6 years ago.
Actually, if you click on a link someone posted several posts above, you'll see there are more college graduates unemployed compared to high school dropouts.
Depends on what you get the degree in. You get a degree in nursing, you'll have a job. You get a degree in English, then what kind of jobs can you get with that? You might be better off with a high school diploma than a college degree that doesn't help you. At least when you apply to low wage jobs you don't have to be rejected for being over qualified simply because you have a bachelors degree.
You do realize UPS drivers make good money, more so than teachers and being a UPS driver doesn't require a college degree. But shhh.....high school counselors aren't supposed to say those things.
Touchy area......There are people in their 30's who have masters degrees who are waiting tables because there aren't any jobs in their field of study..........To say the 30 year old college graduate who's a cashier is the problem isn't identifying the problem. The person might just be experiencing hard times trying to get a better paying job.
Again. Using an example of a very small minority is useless. It's like the person who read an article on a Harvard grad who is a cashier.
Hmmm. My boyfriend has the dreaded liberal arts degree (as do I, and have been continually employed in fields relevant to said degree since graduating over a decade ago). He has a degree in English. With said degree, he works a corporate job as a fraud investigator and intelligence analyst in a major company's forensic accounting unit. Prior to that, he worked for the National Park Service and in IT for a medical supply company, among other jobs.
Both instances are anecdotal. Your friend's experience doesn't anymore mean that those with meteorology degrees are doomed to retail positions than my boyfriend's means that those with humanities degrees will invariably be able to find employment in a varied number of disparate fields. But both do serve to illustrate that there are no guarantees that x degree = y employment being available to you, and that a degree in one particular area doesn't necessarily knock you out of the running for jobs that don't, at a glance, seem to be hugely connected to one's major course of study. So much is dependent upon so many different variables...there's no one litmus test for employability. There's timing to consider, econonomic landscape factors, job market saturation, etc., as well. It's not as simple as "This degree gets you this job," as I think everyone is well aware.
That said, I still do maintain that more training is likely to be more valuable than less training, no matter the field. For many fields, that's going to entail some post-secondary study of some sort (and actually utilizing the study opportunities to their fullest possible extent, not just mailing it in at Kegstand U. and thinking that's good enough and now you're owed a great job, but that's a whole other discussion).
It's a shame because my friend spent a lot of money in meteorology school.
One of the biggest sayings in investing is "past performance is not a guarantee of future returns."
Life changes, the economy changes, the world changes.
The world isn't changing in a direction where "less education is better than more education"
The US lags behind other developed nations in terms of post secondary education.
A college degree is still preferable over a high school diploma in all measurable aspects: lifetime earnings potential, competitive edge in hiring, lower rate of unemployment...
Not EVERYONE needs a college education, but for those who have aspirations towards careers rather than jobs....it is still the best investment in one's own future.
Your link provides a better picture of the unemployment rate between college grads verses high school dropouts.
"There are currently a record number of unemployed college graduates seeking work. So many, in fact, that they outnumber high school dropouts on the job hunt."
That was taken from the first paragraph from the report CNN did.
Why did you post this?
You were the one that erroneously commented on a previous poster's assertion that the "rate" of unemployment for college grad's was lower than the "rate" of unemployment for high school dropouts...
You commented on the "number" of each group in response to another posters comment on the "rate"....
I think the rest of us were already clear on the concept that a high school dropout has a higher risk of being unemployed than a college grad....
The world isn't changing in a direction where "less education is better than more education"
The US lags behind other developed nations in terms of post secondary education.
A college degree is still preferable over a high school diploma in all measurable aspects: lifetime earnings potential, competitive edge in hiring, lower rate of unemployment...
Not EVERYONE needs a college education, but for those who have aspirations towards careers rather than jobs....it is still the best investment in one's own future.
The US is changing to a direction where getting a degree is producing declining returns. Let me just also say that I'm not against education in general but rather credentialism and the current model of higher education. See: credential inflation
That book was published in 2002 by Stanford University Press and was written by a UPenn professor.
If you read pages 23 - 26 you will see what I mean when I say that the value of a degree is "declining."
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