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Old 02-04-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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But in terms of overall growth (number of jobs) nursing is one of the fastest growing fields. As with most fields, new entrants often have to take less desirable jobs until they get more experience. But it's such a large field that virtually any experienced nurse can find work. While it's often difficult and stressful, in most areas it pays well enough that most nurses earn enough to live on working less than 40 hrs.
See what you're doing there, though? You're responding to a post that pointed out that even some nurses can't get their foot in the door, because ever job listing requires experience. You've only reiterated that in your response. There are virtually no "less desirable jobs" open to nurses just out of college, who have no experience.

Nurses need to do internships while they're in school in order to be employable after they complete their program. Even jobs at tribal diabetes-prevention programs in rural areas require 2 years' experience. Even nursing homes and assisted-living facilities require experience. There are rare openings at fitness centers or spas, but the competition for those is naturally high. There aren't enough of those entry-level jobs to do around.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:28 AM
 
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But in terms of overall growth (number of jobs) nursing is one of the fastest growing fields. As with most fields, new entrants often have to take less desirable jobs until they get more experience. But it's such a large field that virtually any experienced nurse can find work. While it's often difficult and stressful, in most areas it pays well enough that most nurses earn enough to live on working less than 40 hrs.

A BA in and of itself doesn't qualify grads for any particular field, and unless they have the foresight to get practical experience in school (internship, etc.) they'll likely get a job unrelated to their field that doesn't require a degree. Otherwise, grad school is necessary to make a BA worthwhile. Grad school is expensive, and a graduate degree in an impractical field often doesn't do that much to improve job prospects.
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No, "corporate america" doesn't decide what's valuable. Consumers decide what's valuable. And currently, consumers have decided that electronics, software, and medical care are valuable. People with certain degrees have more to contribute to those fields than others, which makes them valuable.
Yes they do, when it comes to hiring. If nobody wants to hire someone with a BA in English lets say, conoared to Business, then what is its worth in terms of employability
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:34 AM
 
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Yes they do, when it comes to hiring. If nobody wants to hire someone with a BA in English lets say, conoared to Business, then what is its worth in terms of employability
Why are you focused only on one sector? You're limiting yourself, and allowing that to determine your self-worth. With a mind-set like that, you'll doom yourself. Your negative outlook will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Why are you focused only on one sector? You're limiting yourself, and allowing that to determine your self-worth. With a mind-set like that, you'll doom yourself. Your negative outlook will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It was an example, smh, do you honestly think i applied only to business positions?
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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Yes they do, when it comes to hiring. If nobody wants to hire someone with a BA in English lets say, conoared to Business, then what is its worth in terms of employability
Tell me. How much money have you spent on "history" products in your lifetime? And how much on electronics?
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Old 02-04-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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No, "corporate america" doesn't decide what's valuable. Consumers decide what's valuable. And currently, consumers have decided that electronics, software, and medical care are valuable. People with certain degrees have more to contribute to those fields than others, which makes them valuable.
Mental health is a healthcare field. Of course, you usually need at least a master's degree to do most mental health jobs, but I used my BA in social science to get a job as a substance abuse counselor and start getting hours toward my license.
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Old 02-04-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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See what you're doing there, though? You're responding to a post that pointed out that even some nurses can't get their foot in the door, because ever job listing requires experience. You've only reiterated that in your response. There are virtually no "less desirable jobs" open to nurses just out of college, who have no experience.

Nurses need to do internships while they're in school in order to be employable after they complete their program. Even jobs at tribal diabetes-prevention programs in rural areas require 2 years' experience. Even nursing homes and assisted-living facilities require experience. There are rare openings at fitness centers or spas, but the competition for those is naturally high. There aren't enough of those entry-level jobs to do around.
Where do you live where nurses have to do internships and can't find jobs right out of college? That is not the case here at all.

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Mental health is a healthcare field. Of course, you usually need at least a master's degree to do most mental health jobs, but I used my BA in social science to get a job as a substance abuse counselor and start getting hours toward my license.
Yep! An a HIGH demand field at that!
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Old 02-04-2016, 04:03 PM
 
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OP, have you taken advantage of the free resources available to you? Your college job placement center, the academic adviser in your History Dept.? The advisers are aware to some extent of what jobs in the field (and outside the field) grads have gotten--alumni are a great source of news and contacts in that regard, plus, employers sometimes approach academic departments looking for talented students about to graduate, or for an opportunity to set up a job seminar.

You've gotten some good suggestions here about avenues to explore: writing--you could begin by doing some free-lance journalism for magazines (contact the editors directly to pitch ideas you may come up with, and to find out how much they pay per article), the research institute/think tank idea was a good one. Rand Corporation hires people like you with a BA. You'll have to brainstorm and do internet research to find those think tanks.

Job search/employment experts say that to find your dream job, you have to make it a full-time job, just the search aspect. Networking is important, too. I think the fact that you enjoy what you were trained to do works well in your favor; play up that enthusiasm with prospective employers. And maybe for shorter-term employment while you're searching, look at the job listings online for your area in the "bilingual" category. I've had some good luck with that, myself.
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Old 04-30-2018, 03:05 PM
 
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Liberals are not too bright. 4 years of college and they have 200k worth of debt and no skills.
Discounting the fact that pretty much NO ONE graduates with 200K worth of debt and the fact that liberal arts majors do quite well with finding jobs that pay very well....

I find it absolutely hilarious that someone who clearly doesn't understand that Liberal Arts is not equivalent to "Liberals" that you rail against in other threads, would call anyone "not too bright"

Talk about the "pot calling the kettle black"

Thanks for the laugh dude!
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Old 05-01-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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Because they are far from useless, one.
Because these are the subjects that are of interest to many people, two.
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