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Old 01-24-2016, 12:19 AM
 
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Back then, the lines between the various liberal arts all blurred into each other. And they still do.

Many of our founders studied the liberal arts. Most of our presidents have liberal arts backgrounds. And this is especially true with almost all of our greatest industrial leaders.

Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are both examples of liberal arts majors, although neither obtained degrees. Howard Hughes is another. So was William Hewlett, of Hewlett-Packard, Job's first employer. The list is endless.
Let's also keep in mind that there's a big difference between ivy-league universities and no-name state universities. You can major in Far Eastern Glassware at Harvard and potentially have the right connections to land an eventual 100k+ job. Try doing that at Wichita State University and see if it turns out so well.
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:35 PM
 
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Have you not read ANYTHING on here?? Don't do liberal studies! Oh well,its your life to ruin..do it if you want to i guess..

Thats because writing for English and writing for Science are two different things.

That has never been my experience in any of my papers...ever.
The poster you are replying to on the grading of papers is just speculating about how papers are graded. Many college students can't grasp that they are expected to really think prior to (and during) their writing. A paper should be well-researched, organized, and clear. More importantly, it should demonstrate thoughtful analysis.
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Old 01-26-2016, 07:05 PM
 
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The reason why I chose my major was simply because at the time it was most convenient in terms of accessibility as a full time working adult. I just wanted a degree, period, and the major wasn't too important. I was fine at my job and just needed that paper.

I like that many legit brick and mortar schools these days offer flexible options for working adults to earn their degrees. I'm not only talking about online, but also taking classes in the evenings in accelerated format.

However, what I don't like is that there isn't a lot of options for working adults to earn a more technical/scientific degree.
If you look at many schools that have distance degrees or accelerated evening class formats, the majors are usually things like general studies, communications, or other 'soft' degree.
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Old 01-26-2016, 09:44 PM
 
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Let's also keep in mind that there's a big difference between ivy-league universities and no-name state universities. You can major in Far Eastern Glassware at Harvard and potentially have the right connections to land an eventual 100k+ job. Try doing that at Wichita State University and see if it turns out so well.
Do you presume the study of far Eastern Glassware has no intrinsic value of its own, then?

The Ivy League is far from being the only universities that esoteric studies. Every state university has a few, as do many the non-Ivy League private colleges.
Businesses learned long ago that those who go after very esoteric pursuits are most often just exactly what a stagnant company, or a company that has started a downward slide needs. Liberal arts majors learn how to look at subjects from angles that are not obvious. They learn how to connect subtle differences together, in ways others just don't learn or know how to perceive. As a result, they can often find new ways, new procedures, new techniques, and new materials for a company that has become hidebound and no longer can keep up with its competition.

There's no voodoo or some sort of supernatural talents involved; a person with a history degree can research a product's history just as much as the history of a person or a country. Historical research results in now approaches to old problems. The Liberal Arts degrees points the way for engineers and others to follow.
That's exactly why Jobs hired so many of them. He was not a visionary in isolation; he surrounded himself with both liberal arts guys and engineering wonks, and pitted them against each other. And they challenged him right back.

Most of his best and most trusted development guys didn't go to the Ivy League at all. They were home-grown in California's state education system. Some, like Jobs, went to college, learned what they needed and left before graduation to get an early start on their life's direction.

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Old 01-26-2016, 11:54 PM
 
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If you want a real answer, I just went to college to get laid. I got some poverty healthcare degree because I wanted to have a lot of girls in my class. Yeah healthcare is a good field, but it might as well be liberal arts at the BS level. Most jobs are 30k/year wiping old peoples' asses.
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Old 01-27-2016, 04:21 AM
 
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Let's also keep in mind that there's a big difference between ivy-league universities and no-name state universities. You can major in Far Eastern Glassware at Harvard and potentially have the right connections to land an eventual 100k+ job. Try doing that at Wichita State University and see if it turns out so well.
That is not even close to true....
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Old 01-27-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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The reason why I chose my major was simply because at the time it was most convenient in terms of accessibility as a full time working adult. I just wanted a degree, period, and the major wasn't too important. I was fine at my job and just needed that paper.

I like that many legit brick and mortar schools these days offer flexible options for working adults to earn their degrees. I'm not only talking about online, but also taking classes in the evenings in accelerated format.

However, what I don't like is that there isn't a lot of options for working adults to earn a more technical/scientific degree.
If you look at many schools that have distance degrees or accelerated evening class formats, the majors are usually things like general studies, communications, or other 'soft' degree.
As an edu-hobbyist and someone who has participated in distance learning forums for several years, I've literally looked at thousands of online programs. Business administration is, by far, the most commonly-offered online program. I do consider business administration to be a soft major, though. Other business-related degrees, such as accounting, are also easy to find online. Other commonly-offered online programs are psychology, criminal justice, education (mainly at the graduate level), nursing (BSN and MSN), and information technology/information systems. I wouldn't put communications and general studies in the top five. General studies may not even be in top 10. Some of the rarest online programs are English, sociology, political science, physics, chemistry, biology, and economics. That covers most of the most popular liberal arts programs on brick and mortar campuses. ABET-accredited engineering programs are also pretty rare. It's actually easier to find an online computer science program than an online sociology program, especially when you get to the graduate level.

Of course, there is a difference between most popular online degree and most-offered online degree, but I don't think there is much of a difference because schools are interested in offering the most popular degrees online. Most people are going to major in business administration and psychology just like they would on brick and mortar campuses. There aren't many online programs for those who aren't already RNs, but there are more than enough for those who are and are looking to upgrade to a BSN or MSN. Nursing is also one of the most popular degrees in the U.S.
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Old 01-27-2016, 01:57 PM
 
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That is not even close to true....
Yes it is. You also minor in business and do internships at Asian art dealerships. Then start an import export company catering to high end east Asian art.

I know someone that did exactly this.

She came from a well to do family and made connections at a top ten school that was very impressive to Chinese clients.
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Old 01-28-2016, 05:05 AM
 
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Yes it is. You also minor in business and do internships at Asian art dealerships. Then start an import export company catering to high end east Asian art.

I know someone that did exactly this.

She came from a well to do family and made connections at a top ten school that was very impressive to Chinese clients.
An Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard.........she would be the exception, not the rule. She would have made those same connections no matter where she went to school if she was driven enough to start this business, not to mention that her family connections probably were more important. Just having a degree from an Ivy League school does NOT guarantee you any kind of job anywhere.
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Old 01-29-2016, 12:00 AM
 
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An Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard.........she would be the exception, not the rule. She would have made those same connections no matter where she went to school if she was driven enough to start this business, not to mention that her family connections probably were more important. Just having a degree from an Ivy League school does NOT guarantee you any kind of job anywhere.
Nothing guarantees you a job anywhere. Neither I nor the post I responded to said that.

What we said was that a degree from Harvard sure helps a lot more than podunk state university. You underestimate the cache of H in China.
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