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Old 03-23-2021, 10:00 AM
 
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Well, she's going around saying, she's now considered a "doctor" (PhD), and the headlines are saying she's on of the youngest ever world-wide to earn a PhD at 17, and the school, such as it is, issued her a doctorate, from what I understand. What's your take? OK, I can see, in view of the info you present, how she could fold an MA + PhD into, perhaps 3 years, but....two? Those just don't sound like very meaningful advanced degrees.
I gather that she has a D.B.A, Doctorate of Business Administration, not a PhD, which makes more sense from a timeline perspective, given that the average PhD takes 6-8 years.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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I'm curious as to whether this is just a vanity project, or if she has a career goal in mind.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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To be fair, I don't think it was a PhD, but your points are all well taken and a huge reason why I have some questions myself. Getting a doctorate in business generally takes 4 years from what I'm reading, which goes down to 3 years if the masters program is in the same area of study as the doctoral program, so the doctorate would only be half a year off. And 16-18 month MBAs are pretty comon also.
So what does that say about the program’s rigor?
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:24 AM
 
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I gather that she has a D.B.A, Doctorate of Business Administration, not a PhD, which makes more sense from a timeline perspective, given that the average PhD takes 6-8 years.
3-4 full time, assuming you don’t run into snags during the proposal process and have a decent supervisor. 6-8 would be part time.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:25 AM
 
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So what does that say about the program’s rigor?
I'd have to know more about the program to say. Could be that the program isn't very rigorous or that the student is just so advanced where finishing up ahead of schedule is no red flag.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:26 AM
 
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3-4 full time, assuming you don’t run into snags during the proposal process and have a decent supervisor. 6-8 would be part time.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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I'd have to know more about the program to say. Could be that the program isn't very rigorous or that the student is just so advanced where finishing up ahead of schedule is "expected."
Fair enough. But it’s suspicious if she was able to complete her DBA 3 years after her undergrad.

Don’t get me wrong, nationally accredited programs have their utility - the federal government doesn’t distinguish so for public sector workers they’re rated the same as regionally accredited schools, and are often more flexible.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:32 AM
 
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Gotcha
Apparently the biggest challenge is finding a supervisor who wants to take you on, and then finding sources to support your dissertation. This according to a cousin of mine who got her PhD.

If this CIU program was a bit cheaper I might consider it to do a DBA, more for personal development reasons than anything else. But my MBA is not only regionally accredited, it’s also AACSB (which is another level above for business schools).
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Old 03-24-2021, 06:21 PM
 
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I will take a undergrad of Caltech than an doctorate or PhD of CIU online university.
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Old 03-24-2021, 06:54 PM
 
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I will take a undergrad of Caltech than an doctorate or PhD of CIU online university.
I would, too. That said, for many jobs--especially in government--the DBA from CIU might be the "best qualified" over the BS from Caltech, regardless of the rigor of the program. If a program qualification list calls for an advanced degree and it's between the CIU DBA vs. the Caltech BS, the DBA will win out.
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