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I had Ubuntu & Windows7 on my laptop. Installed 8. Worked flawlessly. When my computer boots I get an option of which one I want.
So I got a great deal on a new Laptop but it runs Windows 8. I haven't tried but both Ubuntu and Microsoft says that no dual partition with LINUX and Win 8 is possible with a HD formatted with Windows 8. A search of forums confirms this but I am sure there is a work around.
I didn't have much trouble adapting to Win 8 once I understood that much of it is written for a touch screen and not a PC. and that key features I used in Win 7 have now been moved to the extreme right in the initial screen by paging over several other screens in Win 8. Since we, in the West, read from left to right, it is inconvenient and I am sure just a styling feature to separate 8 from 7. I think too that Win 8 is just one big pop up which repeatedly contrives to direct the user to buy, buy buy, "apps," music, applications. The Windows defender "antivirus" spy blocker provided with Win 8 is dangerous since it gives the impression that it works when it doesn't. What does work in Win 8 is the copy right prohibition. It works to effectively block or cripple older audio and clips disks and downloads.
If you want to run the family's personal computer tower and not a tablet, Windows 8 is a step back.
So I got a great deal on a new Laptop but it runs Windows 8. I haven't tried but both Ubuntu and Microsoft says that no dual partition with LINUX and Win 8 is possible with a HD formatted with Windows 8. A search of forums confirms this but I am sure there is a work around.
I didn't have much trouble adapting to Win 8 once I understood that much of it is written for a touch screen and not a PC. and that key features I used in Win 7 have now been moved to the extreme right in the initial screen by paging over several other screens in Win 8. Since we, in the West, read from left to right, it is inconvenient and I am sure just a styling feature to separate 8 from 7. I think too that Win 8 is just one big pop up which repeatedly contrives to direct the user to buy, buy buy, "apps," music, applications. The Windows defender "antivirus" spy blocker provided with Win 8 is dangerous since it gives the impression that it works when it doesn't. What does work in Win 8 is the copy right prohibition. It works to effectively block or cripple older audio and clips disks and downloads.
If you want to run the family's personal computer tower and not a tablet, Windows 8 is a step back.
Actually, Windows 8 was designed for a touchpad and mouse to mimic a similar interaction to you get with OSX. They designed it with touchscreens in mind, but as you can see, it's still a pretty bad experience with a touchscreen. Touchpad appears to be the best with Windows 8 based on user studies.
Yeah Linux sounds great until a user tries to install their favorite Windows software. May as well just buy an iPad.
This is changing slowly. Virtual Machines are beginning to bridge the gap for this and some distributions are making effort in trying to bridge the gap between apps for windows on Linux.
Linux used to be very limited concerning this. That is, it used to be that if you wanted to run a windows app on your machine, you had to do some extreme manipulation with your OS using all kinds of tricks with 3rd party apps only to end up with a buggy result.
These days, there are multiple options be it VM's, Wine, Terminal Services, and not to mention the enormous amount of selection for comparable products for Linux (ie Libre Office/Open Office vs MS Office).
With the popularity of Android apps, the gap is getting smaller and smaller. Eventually it will get to the point where you can do everything you want on Linux and what isn't designed for it will run easily via the other means I mentioned to which will be almost transparent to the user when they attempt to install the Windows app.
Since windows 7 is readily available even in building a PC at most makers site I don't see it the main reason for reduced PC sales. People are moving to other platform instead of upgrading their PCs its clear.
Since windows 7 is readily available even in building a PC at most makers site I don't see it the main reason for reduced PC sales. People are moving to other platform instead of upgrading their PCs its clear.
I think it is part of what someone said earlier, that software has not required the need for upgrading in many cases. Most areas of focus don't require a continued process of upgrading, even PC gaming has no real need due to most of them being designed under the constraints of consoles.
There may be another speed up again once the newer consoles are released, but I seriously doubt it as the consoles aren't really pushing anything past what we already have for PC's. If you think about it, PC gaming has been one of the major drivers for innovations in the market, without the need to continually meet demands from that area, technological development will stagnate.
This is changing slowly. Virtual Machines are beginning to bridge the gap for this and some distributions are making effort in trying to bridge the gap between apps for windows on Linux.
Linux used to be very limited concerning this. That is, it used to be that if you wanted to run a windows app on your machine, you had to do some extreme manipulation with your OS using all kinds of tricks with 3rd party apps only to end up with a buggy result.
These days, there are multiple options be it VM's, Wine, Terminal Services, and not to mention the enormous amount of selection for comparable products for Linux (ie Libre Office/Open Office vs MS Office).
With the popularity of Android apps, the gap is getting smaller and smaller. Eventually it will get to the point where you can do everything you want on Linux and what isn't designed for it will run easily via the other means I mentioned to which will be almost transparent to the user when they attempt to install the Windows app.
The reason why people use the solutions mentioned above is because of Linux's current problems. The user interface is still behind (yet much better than it used to be). The mainstream software selection is still lacking and thus you need workarounds such as VMs, etc.
Android is doing very little to promote the Linux platform. It certainly isn't helping close the gap at all.
I think it is part of what someone said earlier, that software has not required the need for upgrading in many cases. Most areas of focus don't require a continued process of upgrading, even PC gaming has no real need due to most of them being designed under the constraints of consoles.
There may be another speed up again once the newer consoles are released, but I seriously doubt it as the consoles aren't really pushing anything past what we already have for PC's. If you think about it, PC gaming has been one of the major drivers for innovations in the market, without the need to continually meet demands from that area, technological development will stagnate.
I agree with this (and I've said it in many of these Windows 8 threads already). Windows 8, new hardware, new software, etc. doesn't really bring enough value to the table for people using Windows 7 on 2-3 year old hardware. As a result, people are just holding onto their computers.
Half of what the original posters post here I don't understand. Maybe there was a time when I deep dived into comparing operating systems but to tell the truth I just want a computer that is an appliance like my coffee maker or stove. They turn on and work.
Let's face it, we have lived through an age of Pax Microsoft. Its operating systems are used planet wide as the standard OS.
However, Microsoft has become an uncle with no apparent means who shows up at Thanksgiving for a cooked meal and funerals where no gift is expected. Microsoft is an embarrassment. It's time for it to quit playing hard ball in its business practices, re-think its position in the industry and get out of the way of innovators.
Half of what the original posters post here I don't understand. Maybe there was a time when I deep dived into comparing operating systems but to tell the truth I just want a computer that is an appliance like my coffee maker or stove. They turn on and work.
Let's face it, we have lived through an age of Pax Microsoft. Its operating systems are used planet wide as the standard OS.
However, Microsoft has become an uncle with no apparent means who shows up at Thanksgiving for a cooked meal and funerals where no gift is expected. Microsoft is an embarrassment. It's time for it to quit playing hard ball in its business practices, re-think its position in the industry and get out of the way of innovators.
AND DON'T BUY WINDOWS 8.
Analogies aside... what is it, exactly, that you're trying to say about Microsoft?
Analogies aside... what is it, exactly, that you're trying to say about Microsoft?
I think he doesn't want Windows 8 running on his coffee maker.
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