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Agreed. Remember, Apple invented to first widely-used graphical user interface in 1984, with the first Macintosh. I would argue that Windows was originally developed as a response to Apple's huge success with the graphical user interface.
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All very fascinating history, of the GUI... With all kind and polite respect intended of course, I had thought that Xerox was technically the first company that developed the first modern graphical user interface, which Apple then copied from Xerox, followed by Microsoft copying Apple's efforts? (I admit that I could certainly be incorrect here however, as I am by no means a history buff, just going off of what I read about the history of Xerox and Apple, in the past.)
All very fascinating history, of the GUI... With all kind and polite respect intended of course, I had thought that Xerox was technically the first company that developed the first modern graphical user interface, which Apple then copied from Xerox, followed by Microsoft copying Apple's efforts? (I admit that I could certainly be incorrect here however, as I am by no means a history buff, just going off of what I read about the history of Xerox and Apple, in the past.)
I think you are correct. I qualified my statement by stating that the Mac was the first "widely-used graphical user interface."
Indeed, Xerox has invented many things that are now commonplace (the photocopier being the most prominent example.)
The iPad was, without a doubt, the first major success for a tablet computer. Microsoft tried to popularize the tablet concept in 2002, with Windows XP Tablet PC Edition (granted, the hardware was a laptop/tablet hybrid design, rather than a tablet design.) This effort failed, and Apple succeed 7 years later with the first iPad. All of today's current tablets with Android and Windows OS's are a response to the iPad. Once again, Microsoft is trying to popularize an idea that Apple developed. The difference nowadays is that Apple has a much larger market share (compared to Microsoft) when it comes to tablets and smartphones. I expect that this trend will continue, despite Microsoft's efforts to "unify" the devices via. Windows 8.
Both of these statements are false. Microsoft (even Tandy and Digital Corp) had the "idea" of the modern a tablet before Apple. Apple was the first to successfully execute it. You make it seem like everyone copied Apple but leave out that Apple copied the app store from Palm, Microsoft and Handspring and that Apple copied APIs from Microsoft, Sun Microsystems and AT&T.
Google has a larger marketshare of smartphones and tablets than Apple.
Correction: Tandy didn't get into it. They bought Grid who had numerous patents to it and actually built some of it in the extremely high end market that wasn't ready for it yet. Thanks to Grid, Tandy owns the patent to the clamshell design of computers.
Correction: Tandy didn't get into it. They bought Grid who had numerous patents to it and actually built some of it in the extremely high end market that wasn't ready for it yet. Thanks to Grid, Tandy owns the patent to the clamshell design of computers.
Good call. I'm a bit fuzzy on M&A back then. I'd like to further understand why ToucheGA believes Apple developed the idea.
I'd like to further understand why ToucheGA believes Apple developed the idea.
Developing and creating are two different things. Apple had put much more R&D into the developing (once they were given access to the patent) hardware more than other companies. Apple tried to let Motorola create computers (outside of supplying RISC) and the failed so miserably that they had to give their computers 5-year warranties. Thus Apple carried the ideas much further than others did.
On a side note if you dig far enough into Microsoft OS code, you will find a few Apple programs down there too.
As to Win8 it would be more acceptable if it defaulted to icons instead of panes. When one has to scroll a desktop screen to the right since the initial panes are to large is a PITA. When one loads a program not designed for Win8 and it loads perfectly yet creates no icons or panes its a PITA to find it and pin it to the desktop (for those who care Office 2007 does function fully on Win8.1).
I rather like Windows 8 on a touchscreen device. Swiping is an effective way to cause things to happen on an electronic device. The gestures in Win 8 take a few days to get comfortable with - no more than swiping home screens on an Android or pinching to zoom.
With the exception of MS Office, I spend most time in the Start screen using tiled applications.
Win8 is a radical change for most - so the comfort level is not high for many. I think the potential is high though. In my experience, quality and reliability of Win 8 is very good.
Good call. I'm a bit fuzzy on M&A back then. I'd like to further understand why ToucheGA believes Apple developed the idea.
I never said Apple developed the idea for a tablet. I said "The iPad was, without a doubt, the first major success for a tablet computer." I was simply stating that the iPad was the first commercial success for a tablet. To my knowledge, no company experienced a huge commercial success in tablet sales before Apple released the first iPad. I worded my statement carefully to reflect this fact.
One could argue that the basic idea for a tablet computer dates back to the 1960's, a decade or so before Microsoft or Apple were even founded.
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Developing and creating are two different things. Apple had put much more R&D into the developing...Apple carried the ideas much further than others did.
This was the point I was trying to make. Apple did not invent the tablet technology, they were simply able to successfully develop the technology faster and more successfully than anyone else.
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