[Fuele]

Originally Posted by Minethatbird

MeaningintheMeanwhile was stating he believes Ct faces a problem with "brain drain", defined (if I am correct) as young people leaving the state that educated them. It is not enough for CT (or any state, for that matter) to educate people. If there are no jobs for those educated people of course they will leave. My son wanted to be an electrician, he was educated in a Ct state trade school. No one would hire him, so he went to another state where someone would. Meanwhile other posters have said they have friends who say they can't get enough people in the electrical field, and every now and then we read an article in the paper where some politician is bemoaning that CT can't get their young people to stay (guess that's that brain drain problem again.)

"It is not enough for CT (or any state, for that matter) to educate people. If there are no jobs for those educated people of course they will leave. "

I am not sure what your point is. I am not sure what else the state can do besides cut taxes and services. Government can't " create " jobs outside of their own employment of citizens. Yes, they can entice businesses to move here and those here to say. However the economic climate, the economic environment is just too filled with variables for the state to grab hold of the situation and provide a cure for a perceived problem.

Historically , the state and country has always had movement within the economic strata . That may include leaving areas and going elsewhere. It is part of the economic freedom that we enjoy.

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by Fuele

"It is not enough for CT (or any state, for that matter) to educate people. If there are no jobs for those educated people of course they will leave. "

I am not sure what your point is. I am not sure what else the state can do besides cut taxes and services. Government can't " create " jobs outside of their own employment of citizens. Yes, they can entice businesses to move here and those here to say. However the economic climate, the economic environment is just too filled with variables for the state to grab hold of the situation and provide a cure for a perceived problem.

Historically , the state and country has always had movement within the economic strata . That may include leaving areas and going elsewhere. It is part of the economic freedom that we enjoy.

Citation: https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D



41% of Connecticut workers are white collar professional/managerial. Massachusetts tops the charts at 44% but Connecticut is right in line with the other high performer states in the 40% to 42% band. Maryland is 43%. Virginia and Colorado 42%. As the boomers retire or die off, there are plenty of opportunities for educated workers. I don't see that employers are leaving Connecticut over a lack of skilled labor pool.


Like the other high COL places, the people bailing out of Connecticut are largely the middle class in the $50K to $75K band where the high cost of living prices them out. Those aren't the top performers. They're the mediocre who can't cut it. That story is playing out in Boston, DC, Seattle, and California just like Connecticut and the NYC tri-state.

[Fuele]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

Citation: https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D



41% of Connecticut workers are white collar professional/managerial. Massachusetts tops the charts at 44% but Connecticut is right in line with the other high performer states in the 40% to 42% band. Maryland is 43%. Virginia and Colorado 42%. As the boomers retire or die off, there are plenty of opportunities for educated workers. I don't see that employers are leaving Connecticut over a lack of skilled labor pool.


Like the other high COL places, the people bailing out of Connecticut are largely the middle class in the $50K to $75K band where the high cost of living prices them out. Those aren't the top performers. They're the mediocre who can't cut it. That story is playing out in Boston, DC, Seattle, and California just like Connecticut and the NYC tri-state.

I tend to agree, however there are over 50 towns cities in CT containing with household incomes below 75K a year. And that is reported income.Generally speaking there hasn't been a mass migration from those areas.I will also say that it is insulting to call those citizens mediocre and say they can't cut it.

[mdovell]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

Citation: https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D


I don't see that employers are leaving Connecticut over a lack of skilled labor pool.

At this point though the market is so tight that we might not have much of a labor pool looking. How many job openings are just sitting there. We might see further consolidation into cities as this continues. It isn't a wage or benefit thing but proximity. What are the largest employers in CT with significant headcounts outside of major highways and rail

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by Stylo

Population changes 2010-2018 mapped on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Connecticut...tm_name=iossmf

This is very interesting. From it you see much of our state’s population drop has occurred in more rural towns. I believe this is tied to lower birth rates and smaller families today. It’s also interesting to see where the growth is with Stamford leading the pack of a few towns. Jay

[Beeker2211]

https://www.inc.com/surge-cities

2020 Inc Magazines List of Top Start Up Locales has Bridgeport-Norwalk-Stamford as number 24, just shy of Atlanta Metro. While a "list" it's interesting methodology.

[jxzz]

Originally Posted by JayCT

This is very interesting. From it you see much of our state’s population drop has occurred in more rural towns. I believe this is tied to lower birth rates and smaller families today. It’s also interesting to see where the growth is with Stamford leading the pack of a few towns. Jay

It is lack of jobs also for young people in CT. For young CT graduate coming out of college, there are plenty of jobs. Unfortunately most jobs are in Boston metro and in NYC metro (including fairfield county), hence, the dropping of population across CT except for fairfield county.

[Beeker2211]

Originally Posted by jxzz

It is lack of jobs also for young people in CT. For young CT graduate coming out of college, there are plenty of jobs. Unfortunately most jobs are in Boston metro and in NYC metro (including fairfield county), hence, the dropping of population across CT except for fairfield county.

... this is a nationwide trend though hardly unique to CT. All of the major metros in CT have gotten a bump recently. Few adults my age want the exurb living, just how that goes.

[CTartist]

Originally Posted by jxzz

It is lack of jobs also for young people in CT. For young CT graduate coming out of college, there are plenty of jobs. Unfortunately most jobs are in Boston metro and in NYC metro (including fairfield county), hence, the dropping of population across CT except for fairfield county.

I think they made a mistake. It should probably say Stamford not Bridgeport in the graphic.

"Plus, with New York City just an hour’s train ride away, the location is prime for pitching VCs there."

Stamford is an hour away from NYC not Bridgeport. This would be awesome news but if they can't get the city and train ride correct I kind of question how they came up with this list.

[Beeker2211]

Originally Posted by CTartist

I think they made a mistake. It should probably say Stamford not Bridgeport in the graphic.

"Plus, with New York City just an hour’s train ride away, the location is prime for pitching VCs there."

Stamford is an hour away from NYC not Bridgeport. This would be awesome news but if they can't get the city and train ride correct I kind of question how they came up with this list.

They are counting the Bridgeport-Norwalk-Stamford metro as a single unit, as they are with all the other metros.