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Old 07-18-2021, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Government + 4,100

Private sector -600



Govt is net +1,600 when you account for the 2,500 Malloy laid off, unless this stat includes city Govt.

 
Old 07-18-2021, 06:18 PM
 
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If he couldn't find help, his other location should be having issues as well. IMHO, he's looking for a scapegoat to blame for the failure of this location that opened just before the pandemic.
Not necessarily. I’ve heard many restaurant owners with different locations stating they closed one or two locations and consolidated staff, to save one of their establishments. Many have cut back their hours and menu items because of staff shortages. It may not have been the only reason why the restaurant closed, but staff shortages certainly don’t help any business.

This report is from April but I doubt much has changed since then because of the ongoing unemployment benefits.

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/...staff/2475743/

This is from June.

https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticu...-are-to-blame/
 
Old 07-18-2021, 06:30 PM
 
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Not necessarily. I’ve heard many restaurant owners with different locations stating they closed one or two locations and consolidated staff, to save one of their establishments. Many have cut back their hours and menu items because of staff shortages. It may not have been the only reason why the restaurant closed, but staff shortages certainly don’t help any business.

This report is from April but I doubt much has changed since then because of the ongoing unemployment benefits.

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/...staff/2475743/

This is from June.

https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticu...-are-to-blame/
In recent surveys of the unemployed,45% of those who have turned down jobs state the $300 was a huge factor.
 
Old 07-18-2021, 06:41 PM
 
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In recent surveys of the unemployed,45% of those who have turned down jobs state the $300 was a huge factor.
I’m sure if everyone was honest, the percentage would be even higher. This is another example of a terrible policy. As a result, a lot of businesses will close doors and many jobs will be forever lost. There will be a time when many of these individuals staying at home now will want to get a job, but there will be no jobs for them to be had.
 
Old 07-18-2021, 07:27 PM
 
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I’m sure if everyone was honest, the percentage would be even higher. This is another example of a terrible policy. As a result, a lot of businesses will close doors and many jobs will be forever lost. There will be a time when many of these individuals staying at home now will want to get a job, but there will be no jobs for them to be had.
The crows will come home to roost nationwide, hundred percent, no way around it.
 
Old 07-18-2021, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Government + 4,100

Private sector -600
You do realize that the government number is mostly the Indian casinos reopening and rehiring their furloughed workers. Also note these numbers are estimates and could be changed next month. Jay
 
Old 07-18-2021, 11:03 PM
 
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I’m sure if everyone was honest, the percentage would be even higher. This is another example of a terrible policy. As a result, a lot of businesses will close doors and many jobs will be forever lost. There will be a time when many of these individuals staying at home now will want to get a job, but there will be no jobs for them to be had.
Correct, by late September, I suspect we will see far more low-skilled people flooding the market for jobs, with a far lower available supply of such jobs. At that point, I do think starting wages in retail, fast food, and the like will decline to just about state minimum wage.

I also think, by early 2022, employers will look at long stretches w/o jobs as badly on an application or resume, as being unemployed in any other period of time would be looked at.

We did not create the absurd policy of a UI bonus, and it certainly should not exist in 2021, but it did create an incentive not to work, which will create some less than solid looking work histories for millions. Long-term, that will harm those choosing to collect as opposed to work.
 
Old 07-19-2021, 01:12 AM
 
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If he couldn't find help, his other location should be having issues as well. IMHO, he's looking for a scapegoat to blame for the failure of this location that opened just before the pandemic.
Who said he's not having issues too in his other location!?
Look if your an owner with 2 locations, um you can only be in one place at a time....maybe he has to just concentrate on running one the best he can?

Could it be that simple possibly.....

It's hard. I've been there. Running one biz is easy by comparison. You figure it out quick. You see smoke, you fix it.
Your employee sees smoke in the Fairfield location, maybe he hopes it goes away on its own....

Running 2 locations is a whole different ballgame.....

So maybe he's looking for a scapegoat or extra employees or heck even more customers.....that location has no room for outdoor seating. He couldn't have customers dine in for a long while, so just takeout. Small dining room inside.

Maybe you guys should buy lunch there and ask him for his books
 
Old 07-19-2021, 05:45 AM
 
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In recent surveys of the unemployed,45% of those who have turned down jobs state the $300 was a huge factor.
Would you point to one survey that says that? Just for curiosity's sake.
 
Old 07-19-2021, 05:47 AM
 
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Who said he's not having issues too in his other location!?
Look if your an owner with 2 locations, um you can only be in one place at a time....maybe he has to just concentrate on running one the best he can?

Could it be that simple possibly.....

It's hard. I've been there. Running one biz is easy by comparison. You figure it out quick. You see smoke, you fix it.
Your employee sees smoke in the Fairfield location, maybe he hopes it goes away on its own....

Running 2 locations is a whole different ballgame.....

So maybe he's looking for a scapegoat or extra employees or heck even more customers.....that location has no room for outdoor seating. He couldn't have customers dine in for a long while, so just takeout. Small dining room inside.

Maybe you guys should buy lunch there and ask him for his books
If that were the case, I would have expected him to say "I can't get people and have had move workers to one location." That could have supported his argument even more, but it's not mentioned.

Again, we don't have all the answers and we're all just spitballin'.

Note that the article is a rehash of a Yankee Institute press release that mentions things factors affecting labor availability not in the article:

- he's being outbid by other restaurant companies
- restaurant workers are fed up with their treatment on the job
- fear of getting sick as many customers aren't following the no vax wear a mask request
- cost of childcare
- restaurant industry is notorious for one day notice of layoffs.

Note a couple of other things in the Yankee Institute press release:

- he is having a hard time getting staff for the Norwalk location
- the Fairfield location was geared to takeout which did well during the pandemic
- as full service restaurants re-opened, it took a hit in sales and staff.

It's probably of combination of all those things and the extended unemployment benefits. But to lay all the blame on the latter is disingenuous.

Last edited by robr2; 07-19-2021 at 06:00 AM..
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