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Old 01-07-2014, 09:59 PM
 
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I got the Harmony 650 yesterday,
That's the one I have , get some rechargeable batteries and if you are in the habit of holding the remote seek counseling ..... or you will be changing the batteries a lot. The LCD screen is motion activated and that is what kills the batteries.
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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Some devices don't have discreet commands for power, it's the same command for on or off. I think both my TV and the Cable box only have the power toggle command and if they do have discreet on and off Harmony doesn't have them listed as option. Only the home theater has a on, off and a power toggle command.
Most do, unless they have a hard key power button, regardless of whether they're on the remote or not. At least they did a few years ago when I was selling the Universal Remotes and our installers were programming them. I can't speak to any specifics. What I can say is if we programmed one of our Universal/Pronto/Control 4/Crestron remotes, power toggle issues were all but non-existent. Some of that was due to the hardware being able to determine the power status of some components, admittedly.

In any event, I'd suggest going to Harmony forums to see if someone has a workaround.
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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That's the one I have , get some rechargeable batteries and if you are in the habit of holding the remote seek counseling ..... or you will be changing the batteries a lot. The LCD screen is motion activated and that is what kills the batteries.
On other brands of remote I've worked with that can be turned off.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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The remote needs a way to connect to the internet and a lot of them do. I have a logitech remote that you connect to the computer via USB to program it. You can program anything, even the ceiling fan.
I love our Logitech remote, have had one for years, when they were Harmony before Logitech bought them. One button turn all the necessary devices on, and set everything to the correct input. If necessary every button can be programmed, but that is rare.
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Old 01-08-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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In any event, I'd suggest going to Harmony forums to see if someone has a workaround.
I just live with it, it's not that much of a problem. It works correctly 95% of the time and if something doesn't power on or off correctly I just do it manually.
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Old 01-08-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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I just live with it, it's not that much of a problem. It works correctly 95% of the time and if something doesn't power on or off correctly I just do it manually.
I have to be able to give my wife instructions for driving the thing. I'll just tell her that when things "go all cattywampus" to push the "all off" button and then press the button for the activity she wants.
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Old 01-08-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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I have to be able to give my wife instructions for driving the thing. I'll just tell her that when things "go all cattywampus" to push the "all off" button and then press the button for the activity she wants.
The remote is little bit different than most people are used because it does a lot in the background, once you get used to it works great because you can do so much with one click.

As far as the "all off" button If it's out syc that may not help if the device doesn't have unique on/off commands e.g if the device is off and the remote thinks it's on when you hit all off it's going to turn everything else off but the device that is off is going to come on.

When the devices get out sync whether they are supposed to be on or off you can use the help button and it will first try and fix the issue itself. I believe it first tries any device that has a unique on and off command. From there it will run you through a set of questions, "is the TV on?". You just click yes or no and it will send the appropriate command.
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Old 01-08-2014, 03:25 PM
 
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Neither my Samsung or previous Scientific Atlanta DVRs had discrete power functions. Very annoying when programming a remote for them.

I consider the Universal Remote Control devices such as the MX-900 superior to the Logitech Harmony devices. Much better made overall - and buttons that are sensibly sized and laid out. Program it with my PC. Unfortunately URC is hostile to the home hobbyist and will not directly supply the software to program their devices.
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:00 PM
 
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Neither my Samsung or previous Scientific Atlanta DVRs had discrete power functions. Very annoying when programming a remote for them.

I consider the Universal Remote Control devices such as the MX-900 superior to the Logitech Harmony devices. Much better made overall - and buttons that are sensibly sized and laid out. Program it with my PC. Unfortunately URC is hostile to the home hobbyist and will not directly supply the software to program their devices.
The reason for that is that any remote is only as good as its software and the programmer. Give Joe Blow a URC and the software, and he will soon be telling everyone that the remote sucks, when in fact he doesn't know all the tricks and tips to make the remote sing. Read reviews on most anything and if you are knowledgeable on the item they are reviewing, you'll easily spot people who know nothing about it and shouldn't be reviewing it. But others will see those ignorant reviews, and think poorly of the product.

I proved this when I gave a buddy who is very mechanically and engineering inclined the software and access to the URC IR database. He messed around with it for a couple weeks and declared that the remote was junk. He told me he'd pay me to program it, but I said that while I could do it, it would be nothing like what my installers could do. So as a present to him I paid for our best programmer to go to his house and do his thing. My buddy was so blown away by the remote that he tried to pay me back for the programming. He told me that in retrospect he didn't even know what the remote could be made to do, let alone how to do it. He didn't know what he didn't know. Training and (mainly) experience were the difference.

URC and others are protecting their proprietary software and reputation by not granting just anyone access. That doesn't help you out, I know, but I bet that you've found a way around URC's policies.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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The reason for that is that any remote is only as good as its software and the programmer.
I would suggest you shouldn't need to be Einstein to program a remote.

The Harmony software is pretty straight forward and it wasn't hard at all to get it working. The sync issue is really not a Harmony problem but limitation of the devices.
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